No nudity in changing rooms
Discussion
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
liner33 said:
It seems clear to me why they have brought in this policy, they dont want young girls/women seeing a penis in the changing rooms, seems entirely fair and reasonable
Or it's anti trans hysteria leading to new puritanism, which is what everyone said would happen.But if you want to broach that subject: https://reduxx.info/women-file-lawsuit-against-uni...
Yep, nu puritanism....
Different cultures have very different attitudes towards nudity.
In Portugal (and maybe Spain, not sure) the general rule is go naked until someone complains.
Topless is every beach, some beaches totally nude but I've seen nude on most non-official nude beaches too. The wild camper set stroll about naked a lot - I've witnessed plenty on my MTB training rides over the years. I've seen young women tourists walking naked on the trails in the middle of nowhere - actually not uncommon in one of the hippie / surfer areas on the West coast.
The Portuguese themselves are almost as prudish as the Brits but the younger generations aren't nowadays. The Spanish and Scandinavian's will abandon their clothes with no problem at all.
I never went nude anywhere when I first moved to Portugal but after a couple of years naked sunbathing and swimming around my own pool was the norm. Still not comfortable to do so myself in public but I have no problem with others doing so.
In Portugal (and maybe Spain, not sure) the general rule is go naked until someone complains.
Topless is every beach, some beaches totally nude but I've seen nude on most non-official nude beaches too. The wild camper set stroll about naked a lot - I've witnessed plenty on my MTB training rides over the years. I've seen young women tourists walking naked on the trails in the middle of nowhere - actually not uncommon in one of the hippie / surfer areas on the West coast.
The Portuguese themselves are almost as prudish as the Brits but the younger generations aren't nowadays. The Spanish and Scandinavian's will abandon their clothes with no problem at all.
I never went nude anywhere when I first moved to Portugal but after a couple of years naked sunbathing and swimming around my own pool was the norm. Still not comfortable to do so myself in public but I have no problem with others doing so.
I'm not sure what bongtom is meaning but I had one hell of a shock in the changing room. I have pretty poor eyesight and swim wearing prescription goggles which offer some assistance. I got out of the pool, removed my goggles and headed to the showers where I almost had a heart attack - I thought there was someone in there wearing a bikini! Eventually turned out to be a fella with a heart monitor strapped to his chest...
Rivenink said:
It's disturbing how many people seem to see nudity only as Step 1 in "How to have sex".
It's quite a UK thing. I went to a swimming pool in Iceland and it was a mixed changing room, and no one was bothered about nudity in the least. Young men and old men, young women and old women, all together, chatting about the latest volcanic eruption and other mundane everyday stuff. Good grief all the prudes had better not go to Japan on holiday. It’s kit off absolutely everywhere there. Changing rooms in sports facilities are very open plan.
Most of the Onsens are single sex but there are still some mixed ones out there. You get the entire family in the Onsens all sat b
k naked in a lovely hot bath together. Takes a bit of getting used to but it’s very civilized once you do. I love the place.
Most of the Onsens are single sex but there are still some mixed ones out there. You get the entire family in the Onsens all sat b
k naked in a lovely hot bath together. Takes a bit of getting used to but it’s very civilized once you do. I love the place.PastelNata said:
Different cultures have very different attitudes towards nudity.
In Portugal (and maybe Spain, not sure) the general rule is go naked until someone complains.
Topless is every beach, some beaches totally nude but I've seen nude on most non-official nude beaches too. The wild camper set stroll about naked a lot - I've witnessed plenty on my MTB training rides over the years. I've seen young women tourists walking naked on the trails in the middle of nowhere - actually not uncommon in one of the hippie / surfer areas on the West coast.
The Portuguese themselves are almost as prudish as the Brits but the younger generations aren't nowadays. The Spanish and Scandinavian's will abandon their clothes with no problem at all.
I never went nude anywhere when I first moved to Portugal but after a couple of years naked sunbathing and swimming around my own pool was the norm. Still not comfortable to do so myself in public but I have no problem with others doing so.
As I have mentioned, Australia has inherited a very American strain of puritanism over the last 20 years...In Portugal (and maybe Spain, not sure) the general rule is go naked until someone complains.
Topless is every beach, some beaches totally nude but I've seen nude on most non-official nude beaches too. The wild camper set stroll about naked a lot - I've witnessed plenty on my MTB training rides over the years. I've seen young women tourists walking naked on the trails in the middle of nowhere - actually not uncommon in one of the hippie / surfer areas on the West coast.
The Portuguese themselves are almost as prudish as the Brits but the younger generations aren't nowadays. The Spanish and Scandinavian's will abandon their clothes with no problem at all.
I never went nude anywhere when I first moved to Portugal but after a couple of years naked sunbathing and swimming around my own pool was the norm. Still not comfortable to do so myself in public but I have no problem with others doing so.
Not that Australia was particularly tolerant of nudity to begin with.
However this is not a law, this is a single organisation that is likely intent on avoiding a growing culture of litigiousness (sadly another trait picked up from America) and really, it's not something we should expect the minimum wage staff of a swimming centre to decide upon, let alone enforce.
Paul Dishman said:
Skeptisk said:
I read an article in the newspaper this morning about a surfing club in Australia that has banned nudity in their changing rooms. Apparently surfers have to shower in their costumes and then change using a towel. To be clear, this is in single sex changing rooms, not mixed changing rooms.
Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
Going to secondary school in the mid 60s it was a big culture shock to find that we had compulsory communal showers after games and PE, even more so when one of the teachers came in with us. Healthy in a way though, as I've never minded being naked in a sauna or steam room as an adult.Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
king sick. I still maintain it was for his own sexual gratification. I believe he got reported for aggressive behaviour a while after and is now retired.Wouldn't have been the first sex scandal in my 6 years at the school either, two even made the evening paper. Another was the tech and design teacher who was caught wood in hole on the vice table with a 15 year old. He got sacked but the school did a deal with her parents and the police took no action. Another was a music teacher who moved in with a 6th form, she was 18 but he'd taught her for years before so he got the sack.
Then my mate went to use the darkroom when he was in 6th year and as he opened the door it was pushed back and locked, he claimed he saw one of the female teachers on her knees giving something a good blow. Now this guy wasn't the type to make things up and he was actually called out of class by the same teacher twice over the next week so who knows what went on.
But looking back it didn't seem like a normal school environment more like a uni where the teachers treated you like their mate so it was no wonder these things occurred.
Edited by sutoka on Saturday 1st April 05:11
ZedLeg said:
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
liner33 said:
It seems clear to me why they have brought in this policy, they dont want young girls/women seeing a penis in the changing rooms, seems entirely fair and reasonable
Or it's anti trans hysteria leading to new puritanism, which is what everyone said would happen.But if you want to broach that subject: https://reduxx.info/women-file-lawsuit-against-uni...
Yep, nu puritanism....
Doesn’t bother me the showering or changing room.
On the other hand I minimise the exposure time and have the decency of being naked the least amount of time. There is no need to faff about with it, much less shaving etc stark naked. You can put some pants on it’s the polite thing to do.
I am from Portugal but don’t agree what was said before unless poster lives in the South in the north people have some common decency, never seen or experience nudity as described…
On the other hand I minimise the exposure time and have the decency of being naked the least amount of time. There is no need to faff about with it, much less shaving etc stark naked. You can put some pants on it’s the polite thing to do.
I am from Portugal but don’t agree what was said before unless poster lives in the South in the north people have some common decency, never seen or experience nudity as described…
jm8403 said:
ZedLeg said:
That’s the way it goes isn’t it. You get set up with hang ups about body image and nudity when you’re young and it takes 60 years to get over it 
It's not hang ups that I don't walk around the changing room and naked and dry my balls with the dryer (the old chaps do this in my gym too)
Skeptisk said:
I read an article in the newspaper this morning about a surfing club in Australia that has banned nudity in their changing rooms. Apparently surfers have to shower in their costumes and then change using a towel. To be clear, this is in single sex changing rooms, not mixed changing rooms.
Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
Our local waters watersports place (Manvers Lake) has the same rule. Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
Everyone's assumed to be a paedo in this country these days. After living in Germany which is the polar opposite (a lot of places you can't go in with swimwear on even if you want to) it is baffling.
CrgT16 said:
Doesn’t bother me the showering or changing room.
On the other hand I minimise the exposure time and have the decency of being naked the least amount of time. There is no need to faff about with it, much less shaving etc stark naked. You can put some pants on it’s the polite thing to do.
I am from Portugal but don’t agree what was said before unless poster lives in the South in the north people have some common decency, never seen or experience nudity as described…
Algarve. 5 years as resident, 10 as a visitor. As I wrote, the Portuguese are generally almost as prudish as the Brits - albeit the younger generations are less so there now - so it is mostly tourists from Scandinavia and Spain in my experience but then I’ve not asked so could be a more varied mix. On the other hand I minimise the exposure time and have the decency of being naked the least amount of time. There is no need to faff about with it, much less shaving etc stark naked. You can put some pants on it’s the polite thing to do.
I am from Portugal but don’t agree what was said before unless poster lives in the South in the north people have some common decency, never seen or experience nudity as described…
I disagree with your “common decency” comment too - there is nothing wrong with people being nude in appropriate places: nude beaches (which you do get further North too), secluded beaches and remote areas or at showers etc.
sutoka said:
I went to a posh grammar in the early 2000's and at 11 after PE everyone went to change back into their kit. I remember the teacher who was mid 40's came in and shouted "right, everyone in the shower, throw your towel in the middle" He literally stood and watched about 20 of us showering naked making sure every single one of us, it was fking sick. I still maintain it was for his own sexual gratification. I believe he got reported for aggressive behaviour a while after and is now retired.
We had one of those at school, he's recently been convicted of a range of child sex offences through the 80s and 90s. Reading back through the thread I wonder if that's why I hated communal changing as a child.king sick. I still maintain it was for his own sexual gratification. I believe he got reported for aggressive behaviour a while after and is now retired.I don't have any issue with nudity now, I've been to nudist beaches and used shared saunas etc on the continent, but in an open changing room would always be discreet. It just seems a bit unnecessary parading about with your tackle out.
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