Russia Invades Ukraine. Volume 5
Discussion
cliffords said:
It far outstrips Western support .
That’s interesting. I didn’t know NK had rocket artillery with a range equivalent to ATACMS and it’s impressive that they have integrated their Storm Shadow equivalent to launch from Russian jets. The NK troops I guess are also western SF equivalent. Impressive.trickywoo said:
That’s interesting. I didn’t know NK had rocket artillery with a range equivalent to ATACMS and it’s impressive that they have integrated their Storm Shadow equivalent to launch from Russian jets. The NK troops I guess are also western SF equivalent. Impressive.
Why the sarcasm? Do you know what NK had and hasn’t got or developed?One thing is clear, Russia still has lots of missiles to chuck at Ukraine unfortunately
J4CKO said:
Must admit, the video of those warheads landing was pretty scary and impressive, like out of War of the Worlds as the capsules landed, but, seen it now.
Call me cynical, but Russia have only been developing that particular weapon for a couple of years and it was launched from the research 'lab' itself. Maybe they've got a secret stash of 200 hundred dotted around the country that they've been saving for best or maybe they fired the prototype.trickywoo said:
That’s interesting. I didn’t know NK had rocket artillery with a range equivalent to ATACMS and it’s impressive that they have integrated their Storm Shadow equivalent to launch from Russian jets. The NK troops I guess are also western SF equivalent. Impressive.
Genuinely interested. What do you know about Western SF deployment in Ukraine ? ben5575 said:
J4CKO said:
Must admit, the video of those warheads landing was pretty scary and impressive, like out of War of the Worlds as the capsules landed, but, seen it now.
Call me cynical, but Russia have only been developing that particular weapon for a couple of years and it was launched from the research 'lab' itself. Maybe they've got a secret stash of 200 hundred dotted around the country that they've been saving for best or maybe they fired the prototype.isaldiri said:
you might find they have been developing multiple re-entry warheads for a couple of decades rather than a couple of years.....
Not this hypersonic one they haven't. Just picking bits out of a BBC News story on it and mainly the point that it was fired from the place it was developed as opposed to from out in the field. Based on nothing else other than Russia's general posturing and failure to successfully deliver multiple other hypersonic missiles to date, I was suggesting that perhaps they are bluffing.airbusA346 said:
Is he planning to hijack a few cargo ships?airbusA346 said:
I wonder why this option isn't available to Ukraine? I'd guess because they can't coerce troops on the ground the way Russia can.I read somewhere that the West can't fund troops, full stop.
ben5575 said:
isaldiri said:
you might find they have been developing multiple re-entry warheads for a couple of decades rather than a couple of years.....
Not this hypersonic one they haven't. Just picking bits out of a BBC News story on it and mainly the point that it was fired from the place it was developed as opposed to from out in the field. Based on nothing else other than Russia's general posturing and failure to successfully deliver multiple other hypersonic missiles to date, I was suggesting that perhaps they are bluffing.trickywoo said:
cliffords said:
It far outstrips Western support .
That’s interesting. I didn’t know NK had rocket artillery with a range equivalent to ATACMS and it’s impressive that they have integrated their Storm Shadow equivalent to launch from Russian jets. The NK troops I guess are also western SF equivalent. Impressive.There are some very good sources of genuine and verified not biased information, I use ISW and Reuters to name just two .
I don't follow Twitter , X and Facebook etc. as its just populated by people with little knowledge ,and a bare grasp on reality . Their interpretation of the reality influenced by their desire it will all get better . Putin will die, Russia will go bankrupt and run our of weapons etc . None of this appears to be apparent , in the factual world.
borcy said:
Makes sense as NK is apparently awash with weapon systems to rival ATACMS and Storm Shadow.airbusA346 said:
Oh they will just feel at home in a Russian winter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJ5ZvRV4O0
Steve Rosenberg's daily review of the papers in Russia. This one covers the papers reactions to the fall in the Ruble.
Steve Rosenberg's daily review of the papers in Russia. This one covers the papers reactions to the fall in the Ruble.
isaldiri said:
ben5575 said:
isaldiri said:
you might find they have been developing multiple re-entry warheads for a couple of decades rather than a couple of years.....
Not this hypersonic one they haven't. Just picking bits out of a BBC News story on it and mainly the point that it was fired from the place it was developed as opposed to from out in the field. Based on nothing else other than Russia's general posturing and failure to successfully deliver multiple other hypersonic missiles to date, I was suggesting that perhaps they are bluffing.There's no sign of any manoeuvring, and tbh whilst it's the current buzzword, it's exceedingly unlikely that one can be developed with current technology - physics being physics.
I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
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