Sir Keir Starmer Prime minister

Sir Keir Starmer Prime minister

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T6 vanman

3,154 posts

107 months

Friday 29th November
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Stolen from another thread
Square Leg said:

bitchstewie

55,444 posts

218 months

Friday 29th November
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TonyToniTone said:
I would agree definite examples in the Abbott and Rayner threads, but someone asking where they got those clothes being misogynistic is classic white knighting.
I never said it was misogynistic.

I said there's a cohort on here who get weird where women are concerned.

LimmerickLad

2,265 posts

23 months

Friday 29th November
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chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
For balance.........State of that.
A person eating. Oh.
Lighten up FFS man.
In all seriousness i’ve always been a bit baffled why he got soooo much stick for that, especially by the press.

I doubt theres a person alive that would look good mid nite of a bacon sandwich.
True but you have to admit it he does look like a Mr Bean doppleganger.

Lotobear

7,205 posts

136 months

Friday 29th November
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Gordon Hill said:
bhstewie said:
Lotobear said:
It's more about a repeated correlation between really odd 'peacock' hair colouring and weird dress sense and how it always seems to align with, shall we say, less than perfect moral behaviour that I think is the issue here.

It really isn't that difficult to understand.
Anyone who has "really odd 'peacock' hair colouring and weird dress sense" always seem to have "less than perfect moral behaviour".

Bloody hell hehe
Is being permanently offended an occupation for you or is it an illness?
...Stewie's so far down the offended rabbit hole he doesn't even know what day it is hehe

p1stonhead

27,319 posts

175 months

Friday 29th November
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LimmerickLad said:
chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
For balance.........State of that.
A person eating. Oh.
Lighten up FFS man.
In all seriousness i’ve always been a bit baffled why he got soooo much stick for that, especially by the press.

I doubt theres a person alive that would look good mid nite of a bacon sandwich.
True but you have to admit it he does look like a Mr Bean doppleganger.
Imagine the ‘chaos with ed milliband’ we might have gotten with him!

Instead we got the Tories and their band of miscreants

General Price

5,484 posts

191 months

Friday 29th November
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bhstewie said:
I never said it was misogynistic.

I said there's a cohort on here who get weird where women are concerned.
Starmer says they can have a penis,it can't be any weirder than that.

LimmerickLad

2,265 posts

23 months

Friday 29th November
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p1stonhead said:
LimmerickLad said:
chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
chrispmartha said:
LimmerickLad said:
For balance.........State of that.
A person eating. Oh.
Lighten up FFS man.
In all seriousness i’ve always been a bit baffled why he got soooo much stick for that, especially by the press.

I doubt theres a person alive that would look good mid nite of a bacon sandwich.
True but you have to admit it he does look like a Mr Bean doppleganger.
Imagine the ‘chaos with ed milliband’ we might have gotten with him!

Instead we got the Tories and their band of miscreants
Where did his 'Edstone' go? biggrin

anonymoususer

6,630 posts

56 months

Friday 29th November
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LimmerickLad said:
Where did his 'Edstone' go? biggrin
Stories at the time say it was pulverised so non of it remained.

TonyToniTone

3,700 posts

257 months

Friday 29th November
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bhstewie said:
valiant said:
Do some PHers have problems with women in power?
Perish the thought.

There's never been anything posted in any of the threads on Abbott or Rayner or Haigh or Reeves to suggest anything of the sort.
bhstewie said:
I never said it was misogynistic.

I said there's a cohort on here who get weird where women are concerned.
We are a talking about a dislike of women in power, how would you define that in one word?

JuanCarlosFandango

8,369 posts

79 months

Friday 29th November
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There's nothing wrong with a woman using her maiden name as such, but it does suggest a certain kind of person. And what kind of a man is this Martin Ballantyne to permit such?

LimmerickLad

2,265 posts

23 months

Friday 29th November
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
There's nothing wrong with a woman using her maiden name as such, but it does suggest a certain kind of person. And what kind of a man is this Martin Ballantyne to permit such?
Do I need a whooshparrot?

chrispmartha

16,955 posts

137 months

Friday 29th November
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
There's nothing wrong with a woman using her maiden name as such, but it does suggest a certain kind of person. And what kind of a man is this Martin Ballantyne to permit such?
I didn’t realise Andrew Tate posted on pistonheads!

FiF

45,631 posts

259 months

Saturday 30th November
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768 said:
monkfish1 said:
DeejRC said:
Contrary to almost all of you, Kier has gone up in my estimation today. He has played a blinder with this one.
It’s a No 10 outfit operating as a No10 outfit should. Competent, efficient, ruthless. Be under no illusion about this, this has been a textbook assassination job by central office on their own and it’s cost them a mere smidgen of political capital. In fact it’s *bought* them some capital with the Press, as this has all the hallmarks of an officially sanctioned Press hit.
He’s, or someone with some operational clout, played this one well.
And it’s slid Rachel from Accounts into pg7 obscurity? Gosh, well that is a happy little side effect isn’t it? Well played all round.
Im inclined to agree with this summary.

Instead of allowing it to become a story for weeks with the inevitable result, its been killed at birth, or even deliberatly brought to the fore. Clearly see was an expendable. Her previous gaffes will have helped bring about her downfall. Sadly she failed to realise that she isnt in 6th form any more, and that words and actions have consequences when a government minister.

I suspect its also a warning shot for other, more childish ministers, to wind their necks in and start operating in a manner befitting the roles.
Hmmn.

I'm not so sure this story has run it's full course just yet.
Moving on from the last 4 pages or so of bitter and ridiculous infighting that would show a Conservative Parliamentary Party meeting as a haven of happy bunnies all in complete accord. (other political party examples are available)

Story is moving on.

Claim is that it's an inside Labour party hit job courtesy Morgan McSweeney.

In tomorrow's Telegraph, make of that what you will. Alleged target on her back since the train driver's pay award, not cleared with Treasury, not cleared with No 10, rumours Starmer blindsided and only heard about it on the radio.

Then there was the war with P&O along with Angie.

Guardian still on the line that McSweeney told her to resign over the old spent fraud conviction.

http://archive.today/zqMKd

That^^ article still subject to editing before publication tomorrow one might suspect, often the case.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/29/ho...

FiF

45,631 posts

259 months

Saturday 30th November
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Just to add, the unions are fuming about it, regardless of why she was 'sacked'.

bitchstewie

55,444 posts

218 months

Saturday 30th November
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TonyToniTone said:
We are a talking about a dislike of women in power, how would you define that in one word?
Normalised.

I see we've now moved on from hair and clothing to women keeping their maiden names.

How dare they.

p1stonhead

27,319 posts

175 months

Saturday 30th November
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chrispmartha said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
There's nothing wrong with a woman using her maiden name as such, but it does suggest a certain kind of person. And what kind of a man is this Martin Ballantyne to permit such?
I didn’t realise Andrew Tate posted on pistonheads!
I’m sad / worry about the partners of anyone who says ‘permit’ in the context of them doing things.

turbobloke

108,007 posts

268 months

Saturday 30th November
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FiF said:
Just to add, the unions are fuming about it, regardless of why she was 'sacked'.
They're also not happy about the WFA means test hit on pensioners and the North Sea job losses incoming from Ed.

Rufus Stone

8,355 posts

64 months

Saturday 30th November
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Real name is JuanCarlosFandangoRex. laugh

Sway

29,428 posts

202 months

Saturday 30th November
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FiF said:
Just to add, the unions are fuming about it, regardless of why she was 'sacked'.
The unions are why she's there, as MP and as Minister.

After all, as was pointed out she came from nowhere to drop into a supremely safe seat, then pretty much straight into shadow cabinet.

Then you realise her grandfather and uncle were Union grandees, she was a Unite shop steward and they fund her.

So of course they're fuming. The ironic bit being despite all that, she was privately educated!

DeejRC

6,529 posts

90 months

Saturday 30th November
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Jesus wept, can some of you pack it the fk in just for once?!

Hit job by Morgan, gosh, I’m shocked. Just so that some ppl get how shocked I am, the news that the hit job was orchestrated by Morgan being leaked is also deliberate.

This is proper competent political management. About time. Let the weekend heavy broadsheets do their thing on her, then Monday brings a fresh news cycle and move on.