Another BBC Presenter in Trouble, Gregg Wallace

[Chrisgr31]

swisstoni said:

Chrisgr31 said:

If he was investigated in 2018 he is an idiot for not changing since, but its not fair to bring up cases that pre date that investigation.

What’s not fair about it?

Because you would assume that matters were investigated and the appropriate punishment issued at the time.

It’s effectively no different to saying you were given a speed awareness course in 2018 but now we think you should have been fined £100 and given points.

In the 1980s and 90s strippers were common place at work events should we be taking action now against those who arranged them?

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

[ds666]

Chrisgr31 said:

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Whilst I agree about judging past actions against today’s standards isn’t right, it happens all the time thou - I’m pretty sure slavery was legal at some point in the past for example - doesn’t stop people complaining and pulling down statues .

[vaud]

Chrisgr31 said:

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

2018 was only 6 years ago. I still have work emails from 2018 in my O365 account.

Not a generational gap (and not that that should affect judgement)

[Bonefish Blues]

ds666 said:

Chrisgr31 said:

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Whilst I agree about judging past actions against today’s standards isn’t right, it happens all the time thou - I’m pretty sure slavery was legal at some point in the past for example - doesn’t stop people complaining and pulling down statues .

More importantly re Wallace it displays a pattern of behaviour, which continued despite his being subjected to a formal investigation previously. Assuming there's truth in them, it'd suggest that he's not only a particularly unpleasant individual, but also that he's as stupid as many of us have long suspected.

[Baroque attacks]

Chrisgr31 said:

swisstoni said:

Chrisgr31 said:

If he was investigated in 2018 he is an idiot for not changing since, but its not fair to bring up cases that pre date that investigation.

What’s not fair about it?

Because you would assume that matters were investigated and the appropriate punishment issued at the time.

It’s effectively no different to saying you were given a speed awareness course in 2018 but now we think you should have been fined £100 and given points.

In the 1980s and 90s strippers were common place at work events should we be taking action now against those who arranged them?

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Where did you work?

[borcy]

scenario8 said:

I have some sympathy with this view, particularly wrt the NHS which really has (at least historically) a scandalous and really quite repulsive attitude in these matters but in the Arts where most of the talent are contractors I just can’t get my head around producers not just acknowledging person X is a liability and quietly dropping them.

With the very real risk of repeating myself, it’s only Gregg Wallace ffs. Surely he’s the very definition of replaceable.

That's what i don't get when talking about the 'talent' he's hardly irreplaceable.
That really wooden ex footballer that had to resign a couple of months back, replaced in the blink of an eye. I don't think he'd be even that to replace.
He's hardly taylor swift.

[mac96]

Baroque attacks said:

Chrisgr31 said:

swisstoni said:

Chrisgr31 said:

If he was investigated in 2018 he is an idiot for not changing since, but its not fair to bring up cases that pre date that investigation.

What’s not fair about it?

Because you would assume that matters were investigated and the appropriate punishment issued at the time.

It’s effectively no different to saying you were given a speed awareness course in 2018 but now we think you should have been fined £100 and given points.

In the 1980s and 90s strippers were common place at work events should we be taking action now against those who arranged them?

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Where did you work?

Stripograms were common in the 1980s. Basically every time someone left in one of the offices I worked in. Intended to embarras the leaver and give everyone else a laugh.

[borcy]

mac96 said:

Baroque attacks said:

Chrisgr31 said:

swisstoni said:

Chrisgr31 said:

If he was investigated in 2018 he is an idiot for not changing since, but its not fair to bring up cases that pre date that investigation.

What’s not fair about it?

Because you would assume that matters were investigated and the appropriate punishment issued at the time.

It’s effectively no different to saying you were given a speed awareness course in 2018 but now we think you should have been fined £100 and given points.

In the 1980s and 90s strippers were common place at work events should we be taking action now against those who arranged them?

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Where did you work?

Stripograms were common in the 1980s. Basically every time someone left in one of the offices I worked in. Intended to embarras the leaver and give everyone else a laugh.

I remember them as late as 2005/06.

[ChocolateFrog]

Why's it always the ones you most expect

Seems like he's more of a pervert/weirdo than an actual sex offender, small mercies.

[theboss]

Mastodon2 said:

Biker 1 said:

Telegraph article earlier was a little more graphic than 'inappropriate jokes'. If any of the more lurid details are true, why didn't the other presenters & production crew step up to the plate?

For those of us who aren't subscribers of the Telegraph, what is he alleged to have said or done?

The DT article I read earlier mentioned that when an Asian contestant was leaving the set he was making kung-fu noises and quoted as saying “me so horny”, “me love you long time” and “me sucky sucky”.

Maybe he’s just a big Stanley Kubrick fan.

Edited by theboss on Friday 29th November 23:15

[Jayzee]

A modern-day Sid James, without filters. What could possibly go wrong?

[darreni]

Sid James was actually funny though.

[Jayzee]

darreni said:

Sid James was actually funny though.

True

[swisstoni]

Jayzee said:

darreni said:

Sid James was actually funny though.

True

Wa ha ha ha.

[jdw100]

darreni said:

chrispmartha said:

Just remembered this masterpiece by Gregg


More Partridge than actual Partridge

He certainly is. What a dick.

Meet my PA at the local Harvester?

This is a satirical piece, surely?

[fourstardan]

I am very glad that Wallace has "stepped aside" at least he'll be off my fking BBC channels with a hairnet on talking utter bollcks for an hour about mcvities biscuits.

In all seriousness, I've only read excerpts on this, my view is he's living in a world where he can't do what he's said, not to say he shouldn't as some of the stuff raised to me is honest and valid. e.g. A Lesbian has clearly decided it was right for them, I bet said Lesbian had no issues doing that when they started exploring it and her mates were asking.

[bitchstewie]

Chrisgr31 said:

Because you would assume that matters were investigated and the appropriate punishment issued at the time.

It’s effectively no different to saying you were given a speed awareness course in 2018 but now we think you should have been fined £100 and given points.

In the 1980s and 90s strippers were common place at work events should we be taking action now against those who arranged them?

I am not defending his behaviour which if it is as alledged is unbelievable and inappropriate but we have to be very careful about using todays standards to judge incidents that happened in the past.

Most workplaces would have had policies against the sort of behaviour Wallace was accused of back in 2018.

As pointed out above 2018 is hardly a generational shift in attitudes so I'm nnot sure why the attempted comparison with the 80's and 90's.

I did wonder if it might be related to this as I think it's what's triggered a few workplaces to put new policies into place.

New guidance explained: employers’ upcoming duty on sexual harassment

Though you'd expect the BBC to be on top of that sort of thing already.

[chrispmartha]

fourstardan said:

. A Lesbian has clearly decided it was right for them, I bet said Lesbian had no issues doing that when they started exploring it and her mates were asking.

Eh?

[Alex Z]

CallThatMusic said:

I have no time for this guy and avoid any programme he is on.
What I think is curious is his apparent interest in the logistics of lesbian sex.
Where was he expecting the conversation to go….

I didn’t like his “shout questions and pretend to be surprised by answers” shtick on most of the shows he did, so found him easy to avoid.

As for the mechanics of lesbian sex, I don’t think it’s that surprising that straight men are interested, but if there is one thing the internet is good for, it’s videos that will make it all clear. Asking actual lesbians you don’t know about it just comes across as really creepy.

[Rough101]

Let’s face it, it’s a red flag when the woman co presenter on that factory show was always at least 100 miles away from Gregg….