Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.

[LongQ]

chris watton said:

And what would happen if everyone had an electric car, at least 60 million on the road, how much extra electricity would be needed to allow these cars to run?

It's all bks.

As a subsidiary report that should keep him busy (and quiet) for a useful further period.

[jshell]

That Telegraph link doesn't work any more.

[turbobloke]

Albert Gore denied rights to film footage oh well never mind Al keep looking for a gullible true believer luvvy

"A weather expert has backed the stance of an Alice Springs filmmaker who refused to sell footage of a firestorm to former US vice-president Al Gore — to use in Mr Gore’s climate presentations — because the event was unrelated to climate change"

How odd the that the failed politico would want to use it. Can't think why, he's such an accurate and informed presenter

[turbobloke]

Guam said:

jshell said:

That Telegraph link doesn't work any more.

Wow that got pulled quick

Glad I saved a copy for posterity. Then again it may just have relocated following discovery of a vacant slot somewhere else, location location location

[jshell]

Guam said:

jshell said:

That Telegraph link doesn't work any more.

Wow that got pulled quick
New link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9582183/Gas-guzzli...

No comments though....

[turbobloke]

Guam said:

jshell said:

No comments though....

I wonder why

Al Gore might not be able to use them in his presentations.

[turbobloke]

Shome mishtake shirley.

Everybody knows Jesus Al Gore wants Obama for a sunbeam.

Green tech and green jobs are real, bullet proof and flawless, right?

Just like the green myths.

[LongQ]

jshell said:

That Telegraph link doesn't work any more.

Looks like they moved it to news.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9582183/Gas-guzzli...

[LongQ]

Guam said:

LongQ said:

Looks like they moved it to news.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9582183/Gas-guzzli...

At 12:53 Guam said

New link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9582183/Gas-guzzli...

Ah, for some reason my screen had not been refreshed to show the next page on the thread before I posted! Never mind, can't have too many references ....

[The Don of Croy]

Guam said:

Dont know whether to laugh or cry over this, all the megabucks pissed away in the US on Solar, half of which I gather went to china <Green jobs didnt everyone promise, but only in Shenzen>.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/report-billions-...

When we were travelling through Nevada in April, we passed the construction of the new boiler scheme at Ivanpah (some big connection with Google too). It is really mahoosive - covering hundreds of acres or even square miles of desert with mirrors, with three separate arrays. Impressive. But will it ever make money? Meanwhile just 100 miles west the Hoover Dam keeps churning out >7 Gw.

[turbobloke]

When will mere realists get to see the secret (shhhh) letter from IPCC to UEA/CRU that nobody except the full-on archest arch-high-priests of the new religion can gaze upon without risking their faith or their grant funding? Apparently, now - some of it anyway.

Context
http://climateaudit.org/2012/08/03/ipccs-secret-le...

New
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/04/the-secret-i...

Backdrop
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/03/the-secret-l...

[chris watton]

If any of our resident warmists want to come clean and earn a reward....:

http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/im-loo...

[Lost_BMW]

Being reported on the lunchtime radio news that Ofgen are warning about energy shortfalls, predicting a potential drop in 'spare' capacity from 14% to 4% in just 3 years!

[LongQ]

Lost_BMW said:

Being reported on the lunchtime radio news that Ofgen are warning about energy shortfalls, predicting a potential drop in 'spare' capacity from 14% to 4% in just 3 years!

Pity they didn't start to raise tins point about years ago when others spotted the potential problem.

Quote:

"Energy UK, which represents the energy industry, said Ofgem was right to highlight the challenges it faces in the coming years.

"We must secure over £150bn of investment in the UK to replace aging power stations and infrastructure, keep the lights on and meet our carbon targets," said its chief executive Angela Knight.

"All while making sure that energy bills are affordable for the millions of homes and businesses that rely on the power supplied by our members."


Is that the same Angela Knight, former MP, who has been so "successful" in her previous semi-sinecure roles since leaving parliament? Seems it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Knight

[LongQ]

Good Grief. Just found this on the BBC News pages.

"Electric cars pose environmental threat".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19830232

Seems quite balanced, sort of.

[turbobloke]

Probably a shock tactic to divert attention from the row over paying costly beeb staff via service companies

[jshell]

LongQ said:

Good Grief. Just found this on the BBC News pages.

"Electric cars pose environmental threat".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19830232

Seems quite balanced, sort of.

Already posted in GG and N,P & E.

[Lost_BMW]

turbobloke said:

Probably a shock tactic to divert attention from the row over paying costly beeb staff via service companies

Well, if you're going to get a shock from any car it's fitting it's electric...

[turbobloke]

Lost_BMW said:

turbobloke said:

Probably a shock tactic to divert attention from the row over paying costly beeb staff via service companies

Well, if you're going to get a shock from any car it's fitting it's electric...

it's the way ya teslas them

[turbobloke]

EU energy commissioner warns against new climate targets.

http://thegwpf.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c...

Nice one Gunther and good luck with the click-through.....