Libya.

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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democracy, too

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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andy_s said:
Watch Libya as Syria gets squeezed...
yes

A depressing piece about Libya on Newsnight tonight.

ISIS fighters are flooding in from Syria and Iraq.

It looks like the country was infinitely better off under Gaddafi.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Then into Tunisia?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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ISIS in Libya can'tr be all bad. Look at their day trips for getting the disabled out and out in the community.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Socks and sandles - the guy is clearly a Lib Dem.



Mr_B said:
ISIS in Libya can'tr be all bad. Look at their day trips for getting the disabled out and out in the community.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

DMN

2,983 posts

139 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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He's not wrong though is he?

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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There is a theme: lack of clear long term political objectives and military involvement = long term failure, eg:
Vietnam
Afghanistan
Iraq
Libya

Clear long term objectives and military involvement = long term success e.g. Western Europe 1945 onwards.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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BlackLabel said:
It looks like the country was infinitely better off under Gaddafi.
Was this not obviously going to be the case before Gaddafi was removed?

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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DMN said:
He's not wrong though is he?
He's not wrong, however pot, kettle.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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This year may prove interesting, refugee camps being set up, huge border walls erected, massive mil deployment on borders, incursions into Tunisia, displaced IS, foreign training teams on the ground. Yup, should be good.

The Don of Croy

5,993 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I think I detected a note of irony in last night's TV news coverage of the VIP visits to Tripoli, to welcome the new regime (or government number three).

They said the visit to a secure military base was heavily guarded, and that the regime had total control of the area within the base.

It's just that the other two governments currently also claiming control do not necessarily comply.

And ISIS running a large area also.

I'd not want to try and sort it out.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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V8 Fettler said:
There is a theme: lack of clear long term political objectives and military involvement = long term failure, eg:
Vietnam
Thought about it hard enough to make up the gulf of tonkin

nyxster

1,452 posts

171 months

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Telegraph said:
The prime suspect in the murder of police officer Yvonne Fletcher was given a letter from Tony Blair’s government reassuring him he was not wanted over the killing, his lawyer has told the Telegraph.

Saleh Ibrahim Mabrouk was informed he was not a suspect as long ago as 2002 at a time when Britain was forging close relations with Muammar Gaddafi’s regime.
However, a 192-page review of the police evidence seen by the Telegraph repeatedly identifies Mabrouk as one of the suspected ringleaders of a “pre-arranged plan to cause death”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/17/yvonne-...

sugerbear

4,031 posts

158 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Oakey said:
Telegraph said:
The prime suspect in the murder of police officer Yvonne Fletcher was given a letter from Tony Blair’s government reassuring him he was not wanted over the killing, his lawyer has told the Telegraph.

Saleh Ibrahim Mabrouk was informed he was not a suspect as long ago as 2002 at a time when Britain was forging close relations with Muammar Gaddafi’s regime.
However, a 192-page review of the police evidence seen by the Telegraph repeatedly identifies Mabrouk as one of the suspected ringleaders of a “pre-arranged plan to cause death”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/17/yvonne-...
Maybe in the hope that he would travel and could then be bought to justice. He could waive that letter in court all day but he could still be prosecuted for the killing.

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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sugerbear said:
Maybe in the hope that he would travel and could then be bought to justice. He could waive that letter in court all day but he could still be prosecuted for the killing.
In the hope he'd travel where?

"Saleh Ibrahim Mabrouk was informed he was not a suspect as long ago as 2002"

"In 2000 he was allowed back into the UK a year after Mr Blair had restored diplomatic relations with Libya."

He's apparently been living in Berkshire since then.

"Mabrouk, who lives in Berkshire, was finally arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder in 2015 but the prosecution was blocked on Tuesday on grounds of “national security”."