Meanwhile, In Syria

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frankenstein12

1,915 posts

95 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Cobnapint said:
scherzkeks said:
Raygun said:
scherzkeks said:
I posted this long ago, but I see it needs a re-post:
"Steve you've been on that computer all day, turn it off and come down here your dinner's getting cold"
Triggered by the truth, Raygun lashes out in impotence.

smile
The truth? You really believe that the US wants Assad replacing with an outfit like ISIS, because that's what would happen if they were to conquer the Syrian Army. They wouldn't just dust themselves down and say 'that it chaps, job done. We'll sit back now and let democracy take it's natural course........'
Actually thats pretty much exactly what the US wanted and have admitted to. They originally thought Isis would be of help in overthrowing the Assad regme so were happy to let them carry on regardless even when made aware that their so ccalled friendly rebels were passing on weapons and training provided by the US to ISIS.

Unfortunately it got out of hand and ISIS grew into a massive monster and the US had to do a bit of an about turn and recognise they had once again created a massive mess for everyone.

Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Cobnapint said:
The truth? You really believe that the US wants Assad replacing with an outfit like ISIS, because that's what would happen if they were to conquer the Syrian Army.
Trump basically said just that the other day,
http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-trumps-un-envoy-sa...

Regime change was back on the table after our terrorists killed a bunch of children and staged a false flag gas attack with the Al Qaeda White Helmet actors.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/06/swedish-me...

Now lets look at the facts:
Afghanistan smashed: Al Qaeda and the drug trade grows
Iraq Smashed: ISIS created and no US politician apologises
Libya Smashed: ISIS enhanced and no US politician apologises
Syria partly smashed: ISIS growing and no US politician apologises

Then later when Syria is about to fall, Russia joins in and they, Iran, Hezbollah and Syria fight back and win against ISIS
The US raises sanctions against Russia and condemns the evil Iran and Syrian 'regimes'
Saudi and Israel threaten Iran with destruction
The US lifts restrictions on arming their terrorists in Syria.
ISIS apologises to Israel for attacking the IDF
https://maoistrebelnews.com/2017/04/27/isis-apolog...

And here is the US top brass discussing the murder of Assad, as Assad's forces are successfully driving ISIS out of Syria:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/9/hr-...

So yes, it does appear that the zio-nut cabal controlling America does indeed prefer ISIS than the stable governments they replaced.
Actions speak LOUDER than words of propaganda, the evidence and history both show that the US wants Assad replacing with an outfit like ISIS.


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Globs said:
Trump basically said just that the other day,
http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-trumps-un-envoy-sa...

Regime change was back on the table after our terrorists killed a bunch of children and staged a false flag gas attack with the Al Qaeda White Helmet actors.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/04/06/swedish-me...

Now lets look at the facts:
Afghanistan smashed: Al Qaeda and the drug trade grows
Iraq Smashed: ISIS created and no US politician apologises
Libya Smashed: ISIS enhanced and no US politician apologises
Syria partly smashed: ISIS growing and no US politician apologises

Then later when Syria is about to fall, Russia joins in and they, Iran, Hezbollah and Syria fight back and win against ISIS
The US raises sanctions against Russia and condemns the evil Iran and Syrian 'regimes'
Saudi and Israel threaten Iran with destruction
The US lifts restrictions on arming their terrorists in Syria.
ISIS apologises to Israel for attacking the IDF
https://maoistrebelnews.com/2017/04/27/isis-apolog...

And here is the US top brass discussing the murder of Assad, as Assad's forces are successfully driving ISIS out of Syria:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/9/hr-...

So yes, it does appear that the zio-nut cabal controlling America does indeed prefer ISIS than the stable governments they replaced.
Actions speak LOUDER than words of propaganda, the evidence and history both show that the US wants Assad replacing with an outfit like ISIS.
How about this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_ter...

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Cobnapint said:
scherzkeks said:
Raygun said:
scherzkeks said:
I posted this long ago, but I see it needs a re-post:
"Steve you've been on that computer all day, turn it off and come down here your dinner's getting cold"
Triggered by the truth, Raygun lashes out in impotence.

smile
The truth? You really believe that the US wants Assad replacing with an outfit like ISIS, because that's what would happen if they were to conquer the Syrian Army. They wouldn't just dust themselves down and say 'that it chaps, job done. We'll sit back now and let democracy take it's natural course........'
You mean exactly like the wonderful "post invasion" Iraq or utopian post "regime change" Libya ? Strange how they both turned out exactly like that. The gift of High explosive air dropped democracy and freedom. These countries went from stable functioning states to destroyed fractured, regionally destabilising countries in 6 months.

Complete coincidence of course.

It is of course, also complete coincidence that the Tunisian attackers , and the Manchester attacker were trained and supported by Salafist ISIS in Libya, nothing at all to do with the high explosive destruction of that state by France, UK and USA. Nothing at all. No connection at all to letting radical Salafism loose in Libya, which Gaddafi was trying to stamp out in Benghazi. Not at all. no connection at all.

Oh look, the Toothfairy.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Wednesday 24th May 11:08

Tonberry

2,078 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Thanks Globs, Quantum et al.

Some of you need the truth beaten into you.

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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So, is it almost over for ISIS in Syria?
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-v...



Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Raygun said:
How about it? Did you read it?

A rather large number of 'Islamist terrorist attacks' appear in Israel. Israel was formed in 1948 when the Israeli tanks - driven by white european jews - drove most of the semite population out of their homes in an event know as The Nakba.
http://ifamericaknew.org/history/ref-nakba.html

They then started a process that continues to this day, of driving the population from their land and implemented a split National/Citizen scheme (unique in the world) that robbed non jews of many rights in the new state.

So I think we can put those attacks down as the UN approved 'resistance to occupation' and the 'right to defend your land' rather than terror attacks. Particularly in this case - especially in Gaza - the terror is meted out by the Israeli occupiers and felt by the native semites who used to live there in peace.

Do you have a list of US attacks on the rest of the world?
Here is the Wikipedia one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involvi...

A cynic might suggest that the US is the terrorist, but I'm sure they are just exporting 'democracy', just like in Syria where they have pledged their resolve to remove Assad by force in order to show just how democratic they are.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Globs said:
Raygun said:
How about it? Did you read it?
Of course I read it or couldn't you work that one out? I'm surprised the religion of peace has committed so many terrorists acts.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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An interesting question highlighted by Nassim Taleb.

Why was the Manchester bomber not arrested when he came back from Syria and Libya?

Could it be he was a "moderately Islamic fundamentalist rebel" fighting the evil Assad? When you support the "moderate Al Qaeda" in Syria, it comes to visit you in Manchester.





Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 25th May 06:58

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Maybe the moderate rebels wanted a break from their day job, bombing Syrian children in Syria?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4421998/Ma...

Liokault

2,837 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
An interesting question highlighted by Nassim Taleb.

Why was the Manchester bomber not arrested when he came back from Syria and Libya?

Could it be he was a "moderately Islamic fundamentalist rebel" fighting the evil Assad? When you support the "moderate Al Qaeda" in Syria, it comes to visit you in Manchester.





Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 25th May 06:58
Or maybe it's that Libyan people go to Libya sometimes? Should we arrest everyone who has been to Libya comrade Tokoloshi!?

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Liokault said:
QuantumTokoloshi said:
An interesting question highlighted by Nassim Taleb.

Why was the Manchester bomber not arrested when he came back from Syria and Libya?

Could it be he was a "moderately Islamic fundamentalist rebel" fighting the evil Assad? When you support the "moderate Al Qaeda" in Syria, it comes to visit you in Manchester.





Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 25th May 06:58
Or maybe it's that Libyan people go to Libya sometimes? Should we arrest everyone who has been to Libya comrade Tokoloshi!?
Or maybe, just maybe, they go to Syria, then Libya, have connections to "moderate Islamic fundamentalist" groups supported by the USA, then return and blow up 22 people in Manchester.

Nothing quite like a "moderately islamic fundamentalist" apologist in the morning. They only moderately blow people up, only moderately throw homosexuals off buildings, only moderately commit religious genocide and slavery. I am surprised this atrocity is not blamed on Putin and Assad. I am sure you will find a way.

Just the kind of religious zealots that NATO should be associated with, supply with weapons, train to fight secular governments, and invite to return here, to enrich our country with their particular brand of high explosive Islamic Salafist moderation.

Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 25th May 08:21

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Liokault said:
Or maybe it's that Libyan people go to Libya sometimes? Should we arrest everyone who has been to Libya comrade Tokoloshi!?
If someone had been reported to the authorities on numerous occasions and travelled to hit spots then yes, they should be questioned. Preferably before travel.

Such a person will have plenty of people prepared to defend them so human rights will be protected.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Oh, what a huge surprise as more information is revealed. I guess this was Putin and Assad to blame for this Liokault? Seems his "moderately fundamentalist" credentials were tip top, until he blew up the children in Manchester.

I will ask it again. Who are our true enemies here, The people blowing themselves up on our streets, blowing up UK children at pop concerts or the people fighting them?

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sorted-mi5-how-u...

The British government operated an “open door” policy that allowed Libyan exiles and British-Libyan citizens to join the 2011 uprising that toppled Muammar Gaddafi even though some had been subject to counter-terrorism control orders, Middle East Eye can reveal.

Several former rebel fighters now back in the UK told MEE that they had been able to travel to Libya with “no questions asked” as authorities continued to investigate the background of a British-Libyan suicide bomber who killed 22 people in Monday's attack in Manchester.



Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Thursday 25th May 09:00

Likes Fast Cars

2,769 posts

164 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
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I will ask it again. Who are our true enemies here, The people blowing themselves up on our streets, blowing up UK children at pop concerts or the people fighting them?

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As an answer, how about "the whole bloody lot of them", ... "and their sympathisers in whatever shape or form, wherever they are"?

I think that just about does it.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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We fund the White Helmets.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=UK+white+helmet+funding&...

They are Al Qaeda who put on hats.
Sad to think that every time we pay tax, a little bit of it goes to arm these terrorists so they can blow a Syrian policeman, teacher, mother etc away.

What type of government are we supporting and voting for? Deep down I doubt few people realise.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=white+helmet+killing+bab...

An update in Syria:
http://thesaker.is/syrian-war-report-may-24-2017-g...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/24/russian-fo...

We're winning there, a victory for humanity, a catastrophe for western governments.
But expect condemnation and gnashing of teeth from the BBC, it's been working very hard to subvert Syria.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/publications-and-...
In the PDF
BBCSyriaPDF said:
“We [BBC Media Action] worked in 2004 with
individuals within the ministry who wanted
change and tried to get them to be the drivers
of that. All media development work that has
been done in Syria has, in my opinion, been
predicated upon this idea that there can be
change from within – you have an authoritarian
regime and you find who the reformers are
within that (individuals) and you work with
them.”74
One has to ask a very basic question, particularly in light of the DNC's accusations of 'interference' in the US election:
"WTF is the BBC doing in Syria?"

Is this really what our taxes and licence fee is for?

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Not a surprise surely? The BBC doesn't exist to show us Iggle Piggle; it is a cold war era propaganda machine with a thin "education and entertainment front" on it. That's why the Conservatives won't get rid of it even though it's New Labour to the bone.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,161 posts

216 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Where is the faux outrage? As expressed during the Aleppo battle.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-25/us-track-...

Do the white hats not do video of US airstrike consequences?

Seems they are remarkably accurate at recording Syrian government airstrikes but really, really, really poor at recording coalition airstrikes.

I wonder why that is? Coincidence again.

Driller

8,310 posts

277 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Very interesting to see the BBC running this article:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40176781