Meanwhile, In Syria

[AreOut]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30pB86_jayk

UNSC live now, UK representative citing Lenin

[BlackLabel]

Earlier today it was Blair and now it’s Hague. War seems to really excite these folks.

“Former Foreign Secretary William Hague has piled pressure on Theresa May to take military action against the Assad regime in Syria or risk legitimising chemical weapons”

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affai...

Edited by BlackLabel on Tuesday 10th April 21:37

[richelli]

. Looks like preparations are in place, along with a load of American aircraft heading that way from today.

[dandarez]

BlackLabel said:

Earlier today it was Blair and now it’s Hague. War seems to really excite these folks.

“Former Foreign Secretary William Hague has piled pressure on Theresa May to take military action against the Assad regime in Syria or risk legitimising chemical weapons”

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affai...

Edited by BlackLabel on Tuesday 10th April 21:37

I once said on PHs years back that politicians seem to actually 'love' wars. I got castigated by a few. I still stand by it. One politician is head and shoulders above the rest re wars - Mr Bliar.

And f me, he's out of the woodwork again, the creepy crawly absolutely good for sweet f a.

[BlackLabel]

You know the situation is fked up when Fox News becomes the voice of reason when it comes to intervention in Syria. Hope the President was watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGf2ZpDENU&ap...

[stuckmojo]

BlackLabel said:

You know the situation is fked up when Fox News becomes the voice of reason when it comes to intervention in Syria. Hope the President was watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGf2ZpDENU&ap...

I watched. I agree.

The whole thing doesn't make any sense.

[aeropilot]

richelli said:

. Looks like preparations are in place, along with a load of American aircraft heading that way from today.

Yep, 4 x USN E-6B were being tracked on fake transponders up in the air over the USA last night......not a good sign that four of those are in the air at the same time!!

[BlackLabel]

“Russian forces will shoot down any US missiles fired at Syria and attack the aircraft or warships they are fired from, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon has warned”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/11/russia...

[rxe]

Russia attacking US Naval assets that launch missiles would be something of an escalation to put it mildly.

I don't get the chemical weapons hysteria. Assad (and his opponents) have been slaughtering people by the truck load over the last few years. Suddenly they use chemical weapons and all hell breaks loose. Machine gunning and bombing people seems fine. Poisoning a few of them = retribution. WTF?

[Biker 1]

BlackLabel said:

“Russian forces will shoot down any US missiles fired at Syria and attack the aircraft or warships they are fired from, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon has warned”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/11/russia...

Either its all mouth & no trousers, or truly scary. Proxy wars are bad enough, but do the Russians actually have the balls to carry out a direct hit on US assets? What would be the consequences??
As an aside, I'm interested to know why Assad hasn't simply been bumped off - surely this alone could have saved countless lives....

[loose cannon]

Did Russia attack Israel after they hit Syria ?
They won’t do anything they are broke and anything more that affects the Russian people’s way of life will end in Russian civil war and putin kicked out hence he’s on a bit of a panic at the mo and needs the western bogey man
Bit like when we need the Russian bogey man

[AreOut]

I doubt Russians would target US assets unless one of their bases in Syria gets hit. If coalition attacks syrian army somewhere they might take down saudi qatari or jordanian plane but they will be careful not to shoot US or NATO one.

[funkyrobot]

Do these fking moron politicians never learn? Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and they have learned nothing. That's before you even think about the teachings that historical conflict should have shown.

It's dreadful to think that a small bunch of power hungry wkers should be able to decide whether or not masses of people live or die.

I hung my head in shame last night when I learned of what the powers that be want to do, again.

Of all the odious little turds to appear again though, Blair really takes the pee

Leave the country alone you fking morons. As harsh as it is, its their fight. They don't think like we do in the west and you won't change the way they are wired. Getting involved will just mean more bloodshed.

I believe we should make a rule that any politician who wants a war is personally made to join the poor buggers on the front line.

[aeropilot]

Biker 1 said:

As an aside, I'm interested to know why Assad hasn't simply been bumped off - surely this alone could have saved countless lives....

You mean cost even more lives.

Because that approach worked so well in Iraq and Libya.....

The Syrian civil war would have ended years ago if it wasn't for the West's constant meddling in it.

Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 11th April 10:52

[rxe]

I would have to agree that the West's success in getting rid of nasty dictators has been somewhat poor. The dictators aren't great, but intervening is a lot worse.

I doubt any potential fight will be nuanced enough to discriminate between Jordanian/Israeli/US aircraft. They'll shoot at anything they can pick up on radar. The reason they didn't shoot at the Israeli planes is that it was a long range attack that never went into Syria - they shot down several of the missiles. So its perfectly possible that aircraft from any country will get hit. Attacking a ship that has launched missiles (launch is very easily tracked) would be the precursor to a proper fighting war.

I agree that politicians should be leading from the front line....

[aeropilot]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Good man.

As you say, sadly he'll likely be blacklisted by the BBC now, as he knows what he's talking about, and the BBC don't like that.

[MikeT66]

funkyrobot said:

Do these fking moron politicians never learn? Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and they have learned nothing. That's before you even think about the teachings that historical conflict should have shown.

It's dreadful to think that a small bunch of power hungry wkers should be able to decide whether or not masses of people live or die.

I hung my head in shame last night when I learned of what the powers that be want to do, again.

Of all the odious little turds to appear again though, Blair really takes the pee

Leave the country alone you fking morons. As harsh as it is, its their fight. They don't think like we do in the west and you won't change the way they are wired. Getting involved will just mean more bloodshed.

I believe we should make a rule that any politician who wants a war is personally made to join the poor buggers on the front line.

This sums it up, really. 100%.

[MrBarry123]

aeropilot said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Good man.

As you say, sadly he'll likely be blacklisted by the BBC now, as he knows what he's talking about, and the BBC don't like that.

I'm not for a minute saying we should attack Syria however Peter Ford isn't without controversy himself on this topic, having been linked with the pro-Assad British Syrian Society.

ETA: having looked, he's the current director of the BSS so his opinion will be slanted towards Assad and against anything which risks dethroning him. Let's not let that get in the way of bashing the BBC though.

Edited by MrBarry123 on Wednesday 11th April 12:49

[BlackLabel]

Diplomacy in 2018.

[aeropilot]

BlackLabel said:

Diplomacy in 2018.

He really is a monumental fkwit.......