Long time iphone user making the jump.

Long time iphone user making the jump.

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OldGermanHeaps

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3,825 posts

178 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Well the launch was a disappointment, the x looks nice, but absolute max i'd pay for that would be £850 for a 128gb version they are just ripping the utter piss at £1150
8+ isnt enough of a step up from my 6s+, the thing looks quite dated and outclassed now, and tbh imo apple quality has went downhill, it seems every new software release adds more bugs than they solve, freezing, crashing and tethering problems are a daily occurance now, and battery life is ridiculous on my 18 month old device, i can take it off charge at 9am and by lunchtime its dead if i use it heavily.
I have tried android a few times on tablets and not really got on with it, but I suspect that is more my fault for not persevering enough due to time pressures, i work 70 hours a week a lot so time is at a premium, ios is just familiar and everything used to at one point just work properly, now, not so much.

I have taken a bit of a sideways step, I like the look of the note 8, but its a bit spendy if it turns out i really don't get on with android, so i ordered an elephone s8 that i will use as my main device for a couple of months, that way if i don't like it £160 after my saved up gearbest vouchers isn't the end of the world i'll give it to my daughter and bite the pillow and order an iphone x, but if i do get along with android after a bit of daily immersion i'll buy the most powerful big screen android phone going at the time i make the decision.

Any tips for a smooth migration? I'm serious about giving this a fair shake so I want it to go smoothly.
I use my phone for navigation, teamviewer and microsoft remote desktop, multiple cctv and security apps, emails and generating quotations and invoices, web browsing and youtube, and streaming podcasts and internet radio over bluetooth in the van.
The elephone features usb c pe+ quick charging but i dont trust chinese oem chargers can anyone recommend a good home and car charger that supports pe+ quick charging?

When the same app is available on ios and android the android version often feels far less polished and slick than its ios equivelant at least on the cctv apps i have setup for customers, others who have made the switch, does that fade eventually, or do you always think this app looks a bit hobbled compared to the ios version presumably to allow them to still run on st androd phones?

I forgot to mention, i use crystal ad blocker on my iphone and i could never go back to not having a decent ad blocker, when i tried a while back to get a decent adblocker on my daughters hudl tablet without rooting, has the situation improved any recently?

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 17th September 22:43

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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As someone who made the switch a couple of years ago, the 160 quid phone will be a worse phone than the iphone in most ways.
I think the minimum to have relatively compromise-free experience would be around 200 GBP.

At the 160 GBP price point a lot of compromises are made, often most notable in screen and camera.

OldGermanHeaps

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3,825 posts

178 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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The sharp qhd screen looks fantastic in reviews and sony imx camera looks no worse than my iphone one as far as the reviewers who have tried it so far. Time will tell.
6 inch plus screen is a big thing for me, tbh a 7 inch screen with a ginoumous battery and a rugged waterproof case and a belt clip for my work trousers would be phone heaven for me.

Brainpox

4,055 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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The thing to remember with Android is that if there's something you don't like about the way it looks or the way it behaves, there is often a way to change it. With iOS, you're stuck with what you've got.

It's true that apps are often more polished on iOS but that's because Android covers a huge range of hardware and screen sizes/proportions. Apple also strongly encourages app devs to make apps feel like the rest of the OS where as it's less important to Google.

w1bbles

990 posts

136 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I agree with all that's been said above. I made the change a month ago by buying a Huawei P10 lite to replace my iPhone 7. My tips are:

There are good mail and calendar apps that you can replace the default Google stuff with.

Widgets are your friend. For many apps you can replace the icons with widgets to get improved functionality such as badge counts.

If you want to keep one foot in the Apple ecosystem, you can use iCloud synching apps such as Smoothsync for calendars and contacts. You'll need an app-specific password to use them.

Yes, Android is less integrated than iOS. But it is hugely flexible.

Have fun experimenting and don't give up until you've really tried. I gave up after 1 week but forced myself to try again once I worked out that the iPhone was not as slick as my one week's absence had made me think.

AJB88

12,383 posts

171 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Vanilla Android aka whats on a Nexus/Pixel is very polished, unfortunately people like Samsung, HTC etc want to reskin the OS and it becomes messy.

Something to consider is the Note 8 shares hardware with the Galaxy S8+ the only difference is you dont get a pen and the 0.1 screen size difference, but its less £££

The experience you get from the Elephone wont be very good imho compared to either a S8+/Note 8 or even Pixel XL.

bristolracer

5,535 posts

149 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I have to do quotes invoices etc on the go and sometimes configuring customers stuff.

I found it easier to get an iPad mini and tether.
Sometimes with things like multi room audio you really need the iOS app the android ones will work but sometimes they do look like an afterthought.

One upside of android is that you will be allowed to have wifi sniffing apps which iOS is quite useless with. If you fit cctv you will find it useful.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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So long as you keep in mind that a £160 device will be different to a £700 device, you'll be ok. Platform shouldn't make any difference to anyone, really.

I know of a couple of people in this office who have 'tried' Android by switching from their iPhone and buying a landfill device for it. They try it, proclaim loudly that Android is slow, dreadful, clunky and then spunk another £700 on another iPhone. I don't argue with those people smile

OldGermanHeaps

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3,825 posts

178 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Not my intention, if there are no dealbreakers software wise a note 8 is on the cards unless something better comes out, i like the look of the s pen for sketching out quick and dirty system design plans and annotating photos with camera positions to send to subcontractors, just £850 is too big a punt to take on a whim. When the note 2 first came out i bought one but android really was inferior back then so ended up selling it fir a loss and paid the apple tax again.

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Monday 18th September 09:54

Pistom

4,964 posts

159 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I agree with others here. If you are jumping with a £160, you are going to fall into the hole.

FWIW I don't feel either the iPhone or Samsung are valu for money at their top end devices but they lead the market so you either pay up or don't.

Thankfully there is ni BIK liability for company phones yet so I will just pick what I consider best at the time. Currently it is the Note 8 but Apple have very nearly caught up now.

On my next jump it may well be back to IOS.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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At the lower end of the spectrum, the new version of the Galaxy J5 is a decent VFM device.

OldGermanHeaps

Original Poster:

3,825 posts

178 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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It's not a £160 device, there is a pre order discount and i had about £25 in credit from that retaillers loyalty program.
https://youtu.be/CwyX8bAHqiQ
I'm hoping it will be good enough to give me a taste for android.

700BHP

456 posts

80 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I switched to a OnePlus 5 and it's a fantastic phone. Highly recommended.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Brainpox said:
The thing to remember with Android is that if there's something you don't like about the way it looks or the way it behaves, there is often a way to change it. With iOS, you're stuck with what you've got.

It's true that apps are often more polished on iOS but that's because Android covers a huge range of hardware and screen sizes/proportions. Apple also strongly encourages app devs to make apps feel like the rest of the OS where as it's less important to Google.
You can even make Android look and behave like an IOS device. Not 100% but certainly 80-90% depending on how long your willing to spend on it.




OldGermanHeaps

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3,825 posts

178 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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The op5 looks good but i want a bigger higher res screen for the cctv work i do.

Slyjoe

1,501 posts

211 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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700BHP said:
I switched to a OnePlus 5 and it's a fantastic phone. Highly recommended.
Same - no regrets at all.

Too Late

5,092 posts

235 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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OldGermanHeaps said:
The op5 looks good but i want a bigger higher res screen for the cctv work i do.
Pixel 2 and Pixel 2xl will be announced on the 4th October

700BHP

456 posts

80 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Too Late said:
OldGermanHeaps said:
The op5 looks good but i want a bigger higher res screen for the cctv work i do.
Pixel 2 and Pixel 2xl will be announced on the 4th October
Are Pixels not priced inline with Apple products?

Shiv_P

2,741 posts

105 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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700BHP said:
Are Pixels not priced inline with Apple products?
No they are considerably cheaper (and better :P )

Anyway, look out for the LG V30 - high quality OLED screen, waterproof etc etc and should be a decent camera. I am using a V20 at the moment and enjoying it.


700BHP

456 posts

80 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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From Android Authority:-

Word is that the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2 will carry a premium price tag and will either cost the same or even more than their predecessors.