Brexit impact : where to invest abroad??

Brexit impact : where to invest abroad??

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kurt535

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3,559 posts

117 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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So,

I've had several cash flow lines shut down due to Brexit. With this in mind, i've taken the view to liquidate several assets and find pastures afield to invest the money.

Question is, where?

To further compound my concern, GF has just finished doing a MSc in economic development and the data for the way we have ran the economy in the last couple of decades has been truly shoddy. UK's pro-cyclical economic policy, now laced with counter cyclical propped up by quant easing underlines the lack of consistency in building a strong base. We are very vulnerable to a slow down.

Whether you are a remainer or leaver, UK isn't an odds on place to sink cash right now so politics aside, where is anyone else considering for a punt?

Ty

SJK

119 posts

108 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Surely when the pound is weak you should be investing in the UK, its the worst time to export your money.. well unless you think things are only going to get worse that is.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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MSc in economics !

Your GF must have missed the module about the UK multi-national businesses?
You can find many of them listed in the FTSE 100 Index.
Based in the UK, but trading all around the world, they are therefore well positioned for economic headwinds ( currencies, regional economics etc. ).
Indeed, many have profited from the reduction in Sterling value, which was accelerated by the referendum result last year.

Try not to worry so much. Sir James Dyson might be able to reassure you perhaps. His business continues to do well, and creates many UK jobs, even though that Company pays a 4% tariff on their manufactured exports to EU countries, including UK.

This economics game is confusing, but experience can be helpful to sort nonsense from reality.

Might be worth suggesting to your GF never to make forecasts, when she is an economist. They do have a habit of being wrong, so the economists then ignore what they said two years previously and try making a different forecast. Not many people remember previous forecasts, so the game just continues.










Edited by Jon39 on Saturday 7th October 12:19

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Why not invest in global funds. You can do it from your phone and you can put 40k per year (between you) into an ISA wrapper.


Badda

2,668 posts

82 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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kurt535 said:
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I've had several cash flow lines shut down due to Brexit. With this in mind, i've taken the view to liquidate several assets and find pastures afield to invest the money.
You're selling your caravan?

83HP

361 posts

180 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Global X MSCI Nigeria ETF ... you are a bit late though

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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I've recently invested a fair amount in VERX - It's a tracker fund which invests in Eurpean Stocks (excluding UK). Although (as I think somebody pointed out) FTSE100 investments are global so shouldn't be affected too much by Brexit (which is why I also invest in VUKE)

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Countdown said:
... Although (as I think somebody pointed out) FTSE100 investments are global so shouldn't be affected too much by Brexit (which is why I also invest in VUKE)

What I pointed out, was that many of the FTSE 100 companies benefited following the vote result.
Of course with the FTSE 100 you need to be selective, when considering the overseas business aspects.
A tracker can obviously only provide the average performance, weighted.

Those constituents that are importers such as clothing retailers, clearly face higher purchasing costs when the value of Sterling falls, therefore not good.







kurt535

Original Poster:

3,559 posts

117 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Jon39 said:
MSc in economics !

Your GF must have missed the module about the UK multi-national businesses?
You can find many of them listed in the FTSE 100 Index.
Based in the UK, but trading all around the world, they are therefore well positioned for economic headwinds ( currencies, regional economics etc. ).
Indeed, many have profited from the reduction in Sterling value, which was accelerated by the referendum result last year.

Try not to worry so much. Sir James Dyson might be able to reassure you perhaps. His business continues to do well, and creates many UK jobs, even though that Company pays a 4% tariff on their manufactured exports to EU countries, including UK.

This economics game is confusing, but experience can be helpful to sort nonsense from reality.

Might be worth suggesting to your GF never to make forecasts, when she is an economist. They do have a habit of being wrong, so the economists then ignore what they said two years previously and try making a different forecast. Not many people remember previous forecasts, so the game just continues.

economic development very different from economics.................not my place to suggest to gf never to make forecasts in her field either.

yes to Nigeria; have been looking at that one in some detail as have friends from there. what interests me is physical trading this time as opposed to funds/trackers stuff which ive did professionally for several decades.










Edited by Jon39 on Saturday 7th October 12:19

drainbrain

5,637 posts

111 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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There are still EU capital cities where residential property can be bought very cheaply and is in high demand from tenants. Bit like Berlin was 10 - 15 years ago.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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drainbrain said:
There are still EU capital cities where residential property can be bought very cheaply and is in high demand from tenants. Bit like Berlin was 10 - 15 years ago.
Bucharest being one (sixth biggest city in the EU).... economy is doing very well there and I think there's a lot to say long term fundamentals for the Romanian economy are very good. BUT it's a game for the brace or someone who really knows what they're doing. Legal framework is much better than a lot if supposedly more developed European economies.

kurt535

Original Poster:

3,559 posts

117 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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Cheib said:
drainbrain said:
There are still EU capital cities where residential property can be bought very cheaply and is in high demand from tenants. Bit like Berlin was 10 - 15 years ago.
Bucharest being one (sixth biggest city in the EU).... economy is doing very well there and I think there's a lot to say long term fundamentals for the Romanian economy are very good. BUT it's a game for the brace or someone who really knows what they're doing. Legal framework is much better than a lot if supposedly more developed European economies.
ty for this. have had a local native say something similar to me quite recently. need to put on my 'to visit' list over winter

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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kurt535 said:
Cheib said:
drainbrain said:
There are still EU capital cities where residential property can be bought very cheaply and is in high demand from tenants. Bit like Berlin was 10 - 15 years ago.
Bucharest being one (sixth biggest city in the EU).... economy is doing very well there and I think there's a lot to say long term fundamentals for the Romanian economy are very good. BUT it's a game for the brace or someone who really knows what they're doing. Legal framework is much better than a lot if supposedly more developed European economies.
ty for this. have had a local native say something similar to me quite recently. need to put on my 'to visit' list over winter
I've spent a lot of time there over the last two years and have build up a pretty good knowledge of Bucharest and some of the regional cities. Have a decent network across the Real Estate/Legal/Finance sectors...I really like it there and have learnt a lot, some of it the hard way. Been managing a very wide ranging Real Estate portfolio.

kurt535

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3,559 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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so, for a basic 2 bed flat, whats the investment like and average yield would you reckon?