Does anything out there pay about 10% interest/year?

Does anything out there pay about 10% interest/year?

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red_slr

17,232 posts

189 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Derek Chevalier said:
red_slr said:
The markets return on average 7%. However c.3% of that is eaten away by inflation. So somewhere around 4%, on average.
Over which time period and which markets are you using for your data?
Its from the Trinity Study.

Caddyshack

10,796 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Don’t take advice off a forum (so ignore the rest)

I have seen good returns from kick out plans

Take advice from an IFA that you like and get on with

bitchstewie

51,206 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
In conclusion what is the best form of investment?
The one a financial professional with full insight into your circumstances suggests you should consider.

There has been some useful advice and interesting options but in your shoes there's nothing that I'd be off to do tomorrow if I had £400k in my bank account based off what I've read here.

cashmax

1,106 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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bhstewie said:
Leicesterdave said:
In conclusion what is the best form of investment?
There has been some useful advice and interesting options but in your shoes there's nothing that I'd be off to do tomorrow if I had £400k in my bank account based off what I've read here.
I would agree with that and I provided some of the ideas!

joyless lobotomised parrot

5,637 posts

111 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
In conclusion what is the best form of investment?
Last autumn I suggested a Bayern Munich & Celtic double to outright win their respective leagues in 2017/18.

This year? Same again for 2018/19.

Reckon that'd be good for 1/4.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,115 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Can I interest the OP in these magic beans?

Caddyshack

10,796 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Can I interest the OP in these magic beans?
I will pay more....I have heard there are green shoots and these are on the way up

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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red_slr said:
Derek Chevalier said:
red_slr said:
The markets return on average 7%. However c.3% of that is eaten away by inflation. So somewhere around 4%, on average.
Over which time period and which markets are you using for your data?
Its from the Trinity Study.
Isn't that S&P only? I'd expect it to be a tad more than 4%.

From CS annual returns yearbook (but for a US investor)

Over the 118 years from 1900 to 2017, the left-hand chart shows that the real return on the world index was 5.2% per year for equities and 2.0% per year for bonds.

This was from a post from 2014, showing same number

http://monevator.com/world-stock-markets-data/

Barclays shows 5% for a UK investor investing in UK equities since 1900, again from 2014

http://monevator.com/uk-historical-asset-class-ret...


HOWEVER....these are likely to be far higher than the returns that the typical private investor will see (despite taking more risk than the index).


Edited by Derek Chevalier on Monday 2nd April 20:45

caziques

2,572 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Should be planting 100,000 trees on 420 acre plot of land in New Zealand within a few months.

I will then have close to 600 acres in total and 150,000 trees.

From 2023 onwards these will produce around 4000 carbon credits a year, with a value of forty thousand pounds.

Total investment is four hundred thousand.

Even if the carbon credits are valueless, the land will still be there and the trees will keep growing - (but harvesting will be around 2045).

Looks like the least riskiest option to me, with a 10% return.


Badda

2,668 posts

82 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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caziques said:
Should be planting 100,000 trees on 420 acre plot of land in New Zealand within a few months.

I will then have close to 600 acres in total and 150,000 trees.

From 2023 onwards these will produce around 4000 carbon credits a year, with a value of forty thousand pounds.

Total investment is four hundred thousand.

Even if the carbon credits are valueless, the land will still be there and the trees will keep growing - (but harvesting will be around 2045).

Looks like the least riskiest option to me, with a 10% return.
If the carbon credit thing doesn't continue to work out, how does this effect the value of the land?

CaptainSensib1e

1,434 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
In conclusion what is the best form of investment?
A diversified portfolio containing a range of different assets to balance risk and return. Obviously.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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CaptainSensib1e said:
A diversified portfolio containing a range of different assets to balance risk and return. Obviously.
Sensible by name, sensible by nature!

trowelhead

1,867 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
In conclusion what is the best form of investment?
IMO, buy property in manchester / leeds / liverpool etc, aim for at least 7% yield, pass off to an agent.

Use leverage anywhere from 50-75% LTV.

Return on your cash will be above 10% net.

Take 5-10 year fixed mortgages to lower risk. Should be borrowing at somewhere around 4% and your property is returning 7-12% depending on how well you buy and what "tier" you are buying at.

Use a company as it's more tax efficient. Buy mixed use / commercial if the stamp duty bothers you.

Keep some aside to max your isas / pension contributions as you see fit. Invest that into mixed world equity trackers / bonds etc. Pension could also hold commercial property leveraged at 50% if you fancy.


trowelhead

1,867 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Leicesterdave

Original Poster:

2,282 posts

180 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Update to this is that I've bought my first house. Paid £130k for it and will chuck £10-£15k on it to make it very nice.

Bought a nice motor.... 335d, 2 year old for £20k...

I've now got £200k left and still no idea what to do with it. All I'm reading is that landlords are selling their properties in droves.... Due to new government legislation- meaning as a landlord I'd be taxed to the hilt?

I'm seriously very lost!

Caddyshack

10,796 posts

206 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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How did you get on with the financial advisor, I saw this advised many times in this thread.

Leicesterdave

Original Poster:

2,282 posts

180 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Caddyshack said:
How did you get on with the financial advisor, I saw this advised many times in this thread.
Told me to invest in the stock market essentially....

trowelhead

1,867 posts

121 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
Caddyshack said:
How did you get on with the financial advisor, I saw this advised many times in this thread.
Told me to invest in the stock market essentially....
And he gets an annual fee if you do so i imagine............. wink

Muzzer79

9,955 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Leicesterdave said:
Caddyshack said:
How did you get on with the financial advisor, I saw this advised many times in this thread.
Told me to invest in the stock market essentially....
Why didn’t you, out of curiosity?

Also, why did you use 5% of your investment fund to buy a depreciating asset? (The 335d)

Leicesterdave

Original Poster:

2,282 posts

180 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Muzzer79 said:
Why didn’t you, out of curiosity?

Also, why did you use 5% of your investment fund to buy a depreciating asset? (The 335d)
I've not decided what to do with the rest yet. Brexit worries me with financial markets....

335d- because I wanted to! I think the one treat won't hurt much...