The 'Apple' effect
Discussion
Nick928 said:
The choice of OS is such a polarising decision for a lot of people and given how dependant a lot of us are on them it’s not a huge surprise I guess.
There appears to be those that even if an iPhone was solid gold and gave you the moon on a stick for £9.99 they’d still say it was rubbish and those that disagree would be shouted down as brainwashed fanboys.
I use two phones for work (yes I can answer two at once because I’m awesome) and currently have a Galaxy S9 and an iPhoneX.
I’ve used various android and iOS (all flagship models) over the last few years and the main difference is the Android handsets always seem to need a load of third party apps to do what the iPhone does out of the box.
In addition there are some business apps that simply aren’t made for Android due to the fragmented nature of the OS and the foibles of different handsets.
A great example is plugging the S8 into my old Citroen which caused the headunit to lock solid, keys removed, vehicle locked and the radio was still blaring away. Tried twice, did the same twice needing the battery to the car to be disconnected to reset.
Plug an iPhone in and it works.
I know there’s a work around by just streaming over Bluetooth but why bother when you can buy a phone that just works.
Battery claims are horses
t. My iPhone lasts 24hrs where as the Galaxy is done after ten hours. Probably something to do with apps refreshing that I can’t stop but can on the iPhone. I can’t easily plug the Galaxy into the car to charge either without fear of it buggering the radio.
The Galaxy keyboard takes twice as long to type with- but you can change the keyboard in Android..... or buy an iPhone that works.
Email, but you can download your choice of email apps if Samsung’s mail app isn’t any good (it’s not by the way).... and after ten years+ I’ve still not found one that works as well as iOS mail does out of the box.
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make, i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
That sounds rather a lot like choice of car, phone and maybe even user than OS. Also sounds similar to the same things that get an outing on Win10 Vs iOS discussions.There appears to be those that even if an iPhone was solid gold and gave you the moon on a stick for £9.99 they’d still say it was rubbish and those that disagree would be shouted down as brainwashed fanboys.
I use two phones for work (yes I can answer two at once because I’m awesome) and currently have a Galaxy S9 and an iPhoneX.
I’ve used various android and iOS (all flagship models) over the last few years and the main difference is the Android handsets always seem to need a load of third party apps to do what the iPhone does out of the box.
In addition there are some business apps that simply aren’t made for Android due to the fragmented nature of the OS and the foibles of different handsets.
A great example is plugging the S8 into my old Citroen which caused the headunit to lock solid, keys removed, vehicle locked and the radio was still blaring away. Tried twice, did the same twice needing the battery to the car to be disconnected to reset.
Plug an iPhone in and it works.
I know there’s a work around by just streaming over Bluetooth but why bother when you can buy a phone that just works.
Battery claims are horses
t. My iPhone lasts 24hrs where as the Galaxy is done after ten hours. Probably something to do with apps refreshing that I can’t stop but can on the iPhone. I can’t easily plug the Galaxy into the car to charge either without fear of it buggering the radio.The Galaxy keyboard takes twice as long to type with- but you can change the keyboard in Android..... or buy an iPhone that works.
Email, but you can download your choice of email apps if Samsung’s mail app isn’t any good (it’s not by the way).... and after ten years+ I’ve still not found one that works as well as iOS mail does out of the box.
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make, i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
I must be blessed, or lucky, as I never have any of these issues.
Nick928 said:
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make, i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
great post - and particularly this bit.............so the new IPhone (I'm not a fan boy) comes with so much memory in such a small package I can literally run my business (apart from accounts) on the £1000 version.......
I work in Computer Science industry, and although I appreciate many of my colleagues slagging it off because of about a million reasons - mostly that they can't do anything to it.........these are often the same colleagues that massively over complicate things because they're clever as f
k and well, they can.Yet, I'm rarely the cleverest guy in the rooms I work in, and I'm the head of the team.
That's the IPhone for me............
it's a cliché, but it just works.............
The Selfish Gene said:
ah ok - don't know about the SIM placement ( I dont' own one yet) - but apparently you can use it without your handset!
The sim is an e-sim built into the watch.If activated on EE (the only UK network that supports e-sims at present) you can use the watch for calls and messages without your phone even switched on. If you need a phone in bluetooth range for it to work then it isn't setup properly.
Edited by Zoon on Monday 17th September 13:51
Nick928 said:
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make
I'd think it's a call only individuals can make. Besides, if that were true surely it would also be the case that it wasn't for an individual to decide the reverse; that a phone was worth (considerably more than) the cost...Nick928 said:
i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
There's nothing an iPhone has that Android doesn't for me to run my business. YMMV.The Selfish Gene said:
Nick928 said:
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make, i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
great post - and particularly this bit.............so the new IPhone (I'm not a fan boy) comes with so much memory in such a small package I can literally run my business (apart from accounts) on the £1000 version.......
I work in Computer Science industry, and although I appreciate many of my colleagues slagging it off because of about a million reasons - mostly that they can't do anything to it.........these are often the same colleagues that massively over complicate things because they're clever as f
k and well, they can.Yet, I'm rarely the cleverest guy in the rooms I work in, and I'm the head of the team.
That's the IPhone for me............
it's a cliché, but it just works.............
I've had iphones since the 4 came out (was always a blackberry user before that) and I cant see me ever going back. I've tried a couple of Android and windows phones of friends and they feel unintuitive and just, somehow, not as user friendly. I'm sure that's not the case and i'd get used to one quickly but, you know what, i can't be arsed. So i'll keep buying myself a new iphone every few years and vaguely console myself with the belief that they hold their value remarkably well in comparison. Maybe.
Zoon said:
The sim is an e-sim built into the phone.
If activated on EE (the only UK network that supports e-sims at present) you can use the watch for calls and messages without your phone even switched on. If you need a phone in bluetooth range for it to work then it isn't setup properly.
thanks Zoon........... I'm still buying one even though I can't use it without the phone :-)If activated on EE (the only UK network that supports e-sims at present) you can use the watch for calls and messages without your phone even switched on. If you need a phone in bluetooth range for it to work then it isn't setup properly.
that's a good explanation!
Baron von Teuchter said:
The Selfish Gene said:
Nick928 said:
It’s horse for courses but to claim an iPhone isn’t worth the money isn’t an individuals call to make, i can almost run the company on my £1000 iPhone, I couldn’t on an S9. To me that makes it worth considerably more than it cost.
great post - and particularly this bit.............so the new IPhone (I'm not a fan boy) comes with so much memory in such a small package I can literally run my business (apart from accounts) on the £1000 version.......
I work in Computer Science industry, and although I appreciate many of my colleagues slagging it off because of about a million reasons - mostly that they can't do anything to it.........these are often the same colleagues that massively over complicate things because they're clever as f
k and well, they can.Yet, I'm rarely the cleverest guy in the rooms I work in, and I'm the head of the team.
That's the IPhone for me............
it's a cliché, but it just works.............
I've had iphones since the 4 came out (was always a blackberry user before that) and I cant see me ever going back. I've tried a couple of Android and windows phones of friends and they feel unintuitive and just, somehow, not as user friendly. I'm sure that's not the case and i'd get used to one quickly but, you know what, i can't be arsed. So i'll keep buying myself a new iphone every few years and vaguely console myself with the belief that they hold their value remarkably well in comparison. Maybe.
All I need a phone for is to make calls, text, email, whatsapp and browse the net (either through the interface of an app or through Safari). When my old 6s died earlier this summer, I upgraded to an 8. Wasn't even a thought to look elsewhere. I'm happy. I can afford it, and I can use it.
Why bother with something else?
Tom_Spotley_When said:
I had an Android phone issued to me with my old job. After using iphones since the 3G in about 2008 it was so difficult to use in comparison that I really couldn't be bothered.
All I need a phone for is to make calls, text, email, whatsapp and browse the net (either through the interface of an app or through Safari). When my old 6s died earlier this summer, I upgraded to an 8. Wasn't even a thought to look elsewhere. I'm happy. I can afford it, and I can use it.
Why bother with something else?
Android phones work in the same way as iPhones when it comes to messaging, making phone calls and browsing the internet. I don't know how you can claim iOS is so easy and Android is so difficult when they work exactly the same for basic tasks. If that's all you need then you are choosing the most expensive way to do it.All I need a phone for is to make calls, text, email, whatsapp and browse the net (either through the interface of an app or through Safari). When my old 6s died earlier this summer, I upgraded to an 8. Wasn't even a thought to look elsewhere. I'm happy. I can afford it, and I can use it.
Why bother with something else?
Don't get me wrong, what you use is up to you, but you did pose the question.
Brainpox said:
Android phones work in the same way as iPhones when it comes to messaging, making phone calls and browsing the internet. I don't know how you can claim iOS is so easy and Android is so difficult when they work exactly the same for basic tasks. If that's all you need then you are choosing the most expensive way to do it.
I don't agree, some functions in android are counter intuitive.One example viewing a new text message with seemingly no option in the UI to go back to all your old messages. Pressing back took you to the home screen. Pressing the messages icon took you back to the last message you read with the same lack of option to go back. This was on a galaxy 5 that my mother briefly owned before going back to an iPhone. The solution was to shut the message app completely and then reload.
Zoon said:
I don't agree, some functions in android are counter intuitive.
One example viewing a new text message with seemingly no option in the UI to go back to all your old messages. Pressing back took you to the home screen. Pressing the messages icon took you back to the last message you read with the same lack of option to go back. This was on a galaxy 5 that my mother briefly owned before going back to an iPhone. The solution was to shut the message app completely and then reload.
There's a back button in the top left that takes you back to other messages...One example viewing a new text message with seemingly no option in the UI to go back to all your old messages. Pressing back took you to the home screen. Pressing the messages icon took you back to the last message you read with the same lack of option to go back. This was on a galaxy 5 that my mother briefly owned before going back to an iPhone. The solution was to shut the message app completely and then reload.
The S5 is nearly 5 years old now. Let's start comparing apples with apples.
Kewy said:
I fully accept that Apple are never at the forefront of technology, personally I'd rather have a reliable piece of tech than the most up and coming tech.
Apple are at the forefront of mobile (ARM) chip design. The most important part of their mobile devices that increasingly gives them an edge over the competition.Hayek said:
Kewy said:
I fully accept that Apple are never at the forefront of technology, personally I'd rather have a reliable piece of tech than the most up and coming tech.
Apple are at the forefront of mobile (ARM) chip design. The most important part of their mobile devices that increasingly gives them an edge over the competition.Zoon said:
Hayek said:
Kewy said:
I fully accept that Apple are never at the forefront of technology, personally I'd rather have a reliable piece of tech than the most up and coming tech.
Apple are at the forefront of mobile (ARM) chip design. The most important part of their mobile devices that increasingly gives them an edge over the competition.
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