New 718 refresh end of year

[julian718]

I have heard from my Porsche Dealership that by the end of this year they expect to see a face lift refresh to the 718 range. Possibly the dash and centre tunnel to be more like the way the 911 has gone and the other models in the range. I was wondering if anyone else had heard of this, or even expects it? and what changes do you think they might make? perhaps the lime green stitch that is now available on the Cayman and Boxster T ?

Thanks
Julian

[130R]

I've seen you can spec Gentian Blue and Aventurine Green with a 718 on the configurator now

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Any truth to the rumours that they're not selling very well?

[julian718]

Thank you all for your comments so far. This is my first forum posting I should add.
My dealership, west London, said they were selling Caymans like hot cakes. But not manual ones. Apparently 1 in 100 is a manual, which is a shame as my search for a used Cayman GTS manual in black just gets harder.

I checked out the T model but it felt really cheap, and regardless of the spec difference vs the GTS, (comparing apples with oranges) it just felt very plastic in comparison and the grey wheels, badge, mirror caps just don’t work against a black car. It could do, can do, but this shade and gloss of the grey doesn’t work with black.



My GTS spec would be this
http://www.porsche-code.com/PL29IFL1

And my T spec would have been this

http://www.porsche-code.com/PLK4DZ42

but the cost is getting too close to GTS levels.
I think I will wait for a while and see what face lift it gets and perhaps in time, maybe by 2021 (for the Ultra Low zone extension in London) a manual black GTS will have come up for sale, but I sense it will be a needle in a haystack.

[Twinfan]

The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

[130R]

Twinfan said:

The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.

[churchie2856]

About to pull the trigger on 718 Cayman (something like this ... http://www.porsche-code.com/PLRZVPE7 ... though could leave PTV/LSD, and add Aventurine and black Sport-Tex).

But now I hear there's a refresh on the cards. I guess this is not that surprising as there's been the base, S, GTS, T ... and soon GT/Touring (OPC Hatfield suggest a flat-6 was just around the corner, but could say no more); this signals a change is due.

I can't see Porsche fitting a 992 style-dash into a 982 for just a few more years, nor discontinuing the flat-4. So realistically what could the refresh comprise?

More kit as standard (with a price hike no doubt).

Do I defer my purchase and risk loss of manual (if new they'll bound to bring out PDK first) and 18" wheels?
Do I drive a hard deal on above build? (say discount all options by 50%)

I hate it when people change things!!!

[Dr S]

130R said:

Twinfan said:

The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.

I would concur with that

[julian718]

Twinfan said:

The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

I like the GT4 but the design language now looks very dated. It would be overkill as a daily driver for me, and I'd never take advantage of its full offering.

[julian718]

Dr S said:

130R said:

Twinfan said:

The £74k for a 718 GTS is 981 GT4 money. There are a couple of black ones at OPCs at the moment. I'd be buying one of them.

I wouldn't if it is a daily driver. Carrera T would be what I would look at as a used alternative.

I would concur with that

The materials and styling of the Carrera T feels cheap in comparison to the Cayman GTS. That gloss black plastic trim is so cheap looking and its too much leather everywhere, feels cold, whereas the CGTS with Alcantera is a nicer place to be. Furthermore the Carrera T is another approx 15K and I have to draw the line at some point, otherwise at that money the next reply would be, "go for the new 911"

[anonymous-user]

Base has everything you need in my view, as fast if not faster than a 981S, just pick a couple of essential options (rear parking sensors, 35w headlights) and you’re sorted for ~45k.

[Twinfan]

My points exactly. GT4 is a much more sensible buy if you're looking to spend £75k on a relatively new manual gearbox equipped Porsche sports car.

[130R]

anonymous said:

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That's an imaginary car at this point. Why not just buy a GTS now and change to that if it ever shows up.

[130R]

anonymous said:

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Yawn. I'm sure if a 781 '6' does happen you'll find some excuse why you are not buying one

[Twinfan]

anonymous said:

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Agreed. This is the only manual 981 GTS for sale at the moment though. Much more choice if you look at GT4s.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[anonymous-user]

Nice to see the flat six society spouting their usual nonsense.

Let’s ignore subjective ‘feelings’ about “power delivery” for a moment and actually get objective. Facts & figures, real, actual metrics speak very loudly about what is the better car. None of this “thoughts & feelings’ millennial hippy bullst about what car is more “fun” to drive etc, continually spouted by the likes of jonttt & co. Although we all know they don’t like that sort of objectivity...

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/pfmp20ve3k56

https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/zcrs16e2ojlt

“Top trumps, top trumps” yeah right. Fk off... the 981 is dead, get used to it. Long live the 718!

[moonigan]

Twinfan said:

Agreed. This is the only manual 981 GTS for sale at the moment though. Much more choice if you look at GT4s.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

ROFL £60K. This or a 997 GTS. In fact this or the latest, lowest mileage, manual 997 with £15-20K in your pocket.

[julian718]

Twinfan said:

My points exactly. GT4 is a much more sensible buy if you're looking to spend £75k on a relatively new manual gearbox equipped Porsche sports car.

i hear you, but the design is now looking very dated

[julian718]

anonymous said:

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very much appreciate your reply, thank you. Its nice that car, but it is non descript, and as I said earlier, get to 79K and people will say, get the next model up.

Back to the original question of the thread, what refresh updates do you think the Cayman range will see. One poster said the likelihood of the 911 new dash is unlikely, which is a shame. My dealer seemed confident the dash will change more to the 911 and include the larger display and new tunnel

[julian718]

130R said:

anonymous said:

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That's an imaginary car at this point. Why not just buy a GTS now and change to that if it ever shows up.

the 718 6 is never coming out, that is a step backwards for Porsche what with the EU emissions - it'll never materialise.