Got a Huawei Android phone?
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"Alphabet Inc’s Google has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware and software products except those covered by open source licenses, a source close to the matter told Reuters on Sunday, in a blow to the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world."
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-huawei-tech-alph...
This could get interesting as Huawei might just be big enough to shrug this off and do their own thing without Google. That said it didn't go well for Amazon and Samsung never got anything much off the ground when they tried their own OS.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-huawei-tech-alph...
This could get interesting as Huawei might just be big enough to shrug this off and do their own thing without Google. That said it didn't go well for Amazon and Samsung never got anything much off the ground when they tried their own OS.
I wonder what the implications will be, if people’s hard earned purchases are effectively made obsolete within a guarantee period.
Refund ?
Mobile contracts having to give you a supported replacement ?
I guess Huawei purchases will crash now, as intended.
Also Apple sales in China will slow no doubt (where they are made...)
Interesting to see how it pans out..
Refund ?
Mobile contracts having to give you a supported replacement ?
I guess Huawei purchases will crash now, as intended.
Also Apple sales in China will slow no doubt (where they are made...)
Interesting to see how it pans out..
We did some firewall testing on a handful of 'Chinese' android devices a couple of years ago. The Moto phones were sending user 'usage' data back to the USA, as was Google, so nothing unexpected there.
A Lenovo Android tablet was pinging a China Telecom server every thirty seconds, which provoked endless paranoia, so they were immediately banned for corporate use.
Presumably it's OK for a USA company like Google to scan your emails, location and texts and forward the nitty-gritty to the Land Of The Free, but when a 'Chinese' company does it, sanctions abound.
There's a huge stack of Huawei broadband gear in the Openreach cabinet at the end of our street and one of their routers sitting on my desk. Resistance, it seems, is futile.
Don't chuck out the fax machine just yet. :-)
A Lenovo Android tablet was pinging a China Telecom server every thirty seconds, which provoked endless paranoia, so they were immediately banned for corporate use.
Presumably it's OK for a USA company like Google to scan your emails, location and texts and forward the nitty-gritty to the Land Of The Free, but when a 'Chinese' company does it, sanctions abound.
There's a huge stack of Huawei broadband gear in the Openreach cabinet at the end of our street and one of their routers sitting on my desk. Resistance, it seems, is futile.
Don't chuck out the fax machine just yet. :-)
Looks like the ban only applies to new, unreleased models. Existing models should be safe.
Will get interesting if the other big Chinese manufacters also get banned like OnePlus/Oppo, Honor, etc.
Will get interesting if the other big Chinese manufacters also get banned like OnePlus/Oppo, Honor, etc.
tankplanker said:
Looks like the ban only applies to new, unreleased models. Existing models should be safe.
Will get interesting if the other big Chinese manufacters also get banned like OnePlus/Oppo, Honor, etc.
Honor is a Huawei brand so presumably subject to the same restrictions.Will get interesting if the other big Chinese manufacters also get banned like OnePlus/Oppo, Honor, etc.
Huawei watch, two phones and as of this weekend a Huawei 4G router to replace my Virgin broadband, if it all kicks off I'm going to end up living in a cave reading books and using the sun to work out what time of day it is
In reality it seems like posturing to me, Huawei already have ways around much of this if necessary and I'd personally view them a bigger threat if they held on to a market share using 100% Huawei controlled products and components. They're doing well because their products are good, not because they are tricking people into buying things, I think other manufacturers are just scared.
Even without direct support from Huawei people really wanting later versions of Android etc will just be able to install them via other routes, I'm not worried just yet.
Although the other night we were talking in the car about how poor Deliveroo coverage in our area is compared to a recent stay in Edinburgh, on getting home the first thing I saw on Instagram was an advert for Deliveroo being available where I live. Oh and I pointed the phone camera at a cat yesterday and it said "cat" as the photo mode, that's witchcraft!
In reality it seems like posturing to me, Huawei already have ways around much of this if necessary and I'd personally view them a bigger threat if they held on to a market share using 100% Huawei controlled products and components. They're doing well because their products are good, not because they are tricking people into buying things, I think other manufacturers are just scared.
Even without direct support from Huawei people really wanting later versions of Android etc will just be able to install them via other routes, I'm not worried just yet.
Although the other night we were talking in the car about how poor Deliveroo coverage in our area is compared to a recent stay in Edinburgh, on getting home the first thing I saw on Instagram was an advert for Deliveroo being available where I live. Oh and I pointed the phone camera at a cat yesterday and it said "cat" as the photo mode, that's witchcraft!
I wonder what the realities are here - Huawei are owned by TUs which bow down to the government and no amount of NDA type signing will persuade governments that they're independant. I wonder if Huawei will look at their ownership model and change, but somehow I doubt it...
Or is it protectionism from the US - There's an election coming and Donald Trump is going to want to look strong here...
Or is it protectionism from the US - There's an election coming and Donald Trump is going to want to look strong here...
budgie smuggler said:
ging84 said:
they can just fork android, or use an existing fork
It's not about Android itself, anyone can fork that and use it. It's about access to Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, Google Services, etc. Those are not under the same licence as Android itself.buggalugs said:
budgie smuggler said:
ging84 said:
they can just fork android, or use an existing fork
It's not about Android itself, anyone can fork that and use it. It's about access to Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, Google Services, etc. Those are not under the same licence as Android itself.My Mate 10 Pro works well, I use the 2 SIM facility and find it a great phone. I've had it 18 months and hope to get a another year or two out of it
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