US billionaire clears 400 student loans.

US billionaire clears 400 student loans.

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Hilts

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4,383 posts

282 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Good on him.
Was it just exclusively for black students?

If so can white philanthropists clear white student loans exclusively without bleats of THAT'S RACIST!

I see this cat married a white chick, not that that's particularly relevant, just an observation.

Hilts

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21TonyK

11,513 posts

209 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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I read the story and as far as I can see ( in pics ) it was mixed race so nothing other than pure philanthropy.

Irrespective of his wealth giving what could be $10m+ to unknown students is a very generous move.

Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.

dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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It is at a traditionally black male university. But of course it’s not officially restricted to that specific demographic, just it’s the way it is.

The US is a very odd and backward place still with respect to racism. Openly racist behavior is tolerated at all levels, but only if it’s against those who are seemingly not the repressed. “Reverse Racism” as it’s called.

Stupid thing is that no one seems to get it that as long as it goes on, on BOTH SIDES, nothing will ever improve.

Big GT

1,805 posts

92 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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21TonyK said:
I read the story and as far as I can see ( in pics ) it was mixed race so nothing other than pure philanthropy.

Irrespective of his wealth giving what could be $10m+ to unknown students is a very generous move.

Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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dvs_dave said:
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.
Still a lovely thing to do.

.:ian:.

1,929 posts

203 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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dvs_dave said:
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.
Iffy ground surely as the recipients are not charities? Likely to be a taxable gift?

dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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.:ian:. said:
dvs_dave said:
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.
Iffy ground surely as the recipients are not charities? Likely to be a taxable gift?
Individually they’re not. But a charitable organisation (as most big money philanthropists already have set up) offering financial aid to individuals that apply for assistance.....different matter.

However, the individuals receiving said “aid” will likely have to contend with a tax bill as it’ll be regarded as income. Either way, everyone’s happy as individuals only have pence on the dollar to actually pay, and the IRS still gets its cut.

Burwood

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246 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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His wife’s not black so no race issues guys. He likes porn stars too so a pretty cool dude.

Lindun

1,965 posts

62 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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.:ian:. said:
dvs_dave said:
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.
Iffy ground surely as the recipients are not charities? Likely to be a taxable gift?
Are you applying UK tax laws to US tax laws?

Whichever way he does it, he’s paid off people’s debts and that has to be applauded.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Lindun said:
.:ian:. said:
dvs_dave said:
Likely worked it as a Charitable donation so can write it off. The US has very generous tax policies on charitable donations, particularly for the very wealthy/large donations.
Iffy ground surely as the recipients are not charities? Likely to be a taxable gift?
Are you applying UK tax laws to US tax laws?

Whichever way he does it, he’s paid off people’s debts and that has to be applauded.
What else has he done. Just asking

Lindun

1,965 posts

62 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Burwood said:
What else has he done. Just asking
It says in the article that he’s already donated $70m in two gifts to Cornell and a museum, alongside committing to giving most of his personal fortune away in line with the Bill Gates idea.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Lindun said:
Burwood said:
What else has he done. Just asking
It says in the article that he’s already donated $70m in two gifts to Cornell and a museum, alongside committing to giving most of his personal fortune away in line with the Bill Gates idea.
Ok. That’s great.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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21TonyK said:
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Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.
Although rather than relying on the whims of the 0.01% it would be possible to change the tax system.

dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Fittster said:
21TonyK said:
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Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.
Although rather than relying on the whims of the 0.01% it would be possible to change the tax system.
For the government to fritter away with little accountability with envy driven tax policies discouraging said 0.01% to actively choose where to donate their “excess” money.

Yea, I think I know which way works better.

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Dude does something amazing and 50% of people look to criticise the rich guy.
Sums up our 2 party syatem!

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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dvs_dave said:
Fittster said:
21TonyK said:
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Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.
Although rather than relying on the whims of the 0.01% it would be possible to change the tax system.
For the government to fritter away with little accountability with envy driven tax policies discouraging said 0.01% to actively choose where to donate their “excess” money.

Yea, I think I know which way works better.
Describing the state funding of higher education as frittering away money is a bizarre view. What other things do the poor want because they are envious of the rich?

Looking at inequality measures in the US I'm sure I know what is right. As a recent UK report stated, a good way of looking at this is:

"To understand whether inequality is a problem, we need to understand the sources of inequality, views of what is fair and the implications of inequality as well as the levels of inequality. Are present levels of inequalities due to well-deserved rewards or to unfair bargaining power, regulatory failure or political capture?


wisbech

2,965 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Hilts said:
Good on him.
Was it just exclusively for black students?

If so can white philanthropists clear white student loans exclusively without bleats of THAT'S RACIST!

I see this cat married a white chick, not that that's particularly relevant, just an observation.
More house is ‘historically’ black, but has no admission criteria on race since desegregation. So, not for black students exclusively, any more than doing the same at Notre Dame would be for Catholics only.

dvs_dave

8,601 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Fittster said:
dvs_dave said:
Fittster said:
21TonyK said:
I

Just goes to reinforce the point that many modern wealthy people realise they have far more money than they need and that they can do a far greater good be it through donations, foundations or legacies.
Although rather than relying on the whims of the 0.01% it would be possible to change the tax system.
For the government to fritter away with little accountability with envy driven tax policies discouraging said 0.01% to actively choose where to donate their “excess” money.

Yea, I think I know which way works better.
Describing the state funding of higher education as frittering away money is a bizarre view. What other things do the poor want because they are envious of the rich?

Looking at inequality measures in the US I'm sure I know what is right. As a recent UK report stated, a good way of looking at this is:

"To understand whether inequality is a problem, we need to understand the sources of inequality, views of what is fair and the implications of inequality as well as the levels of inequality. Are present levels of inequalities due to well-deserved rewards or to unfair bargaining power, regulatory failure or political capture?
laugh Yes, of course all that extra tax income would be spent exclusively on higher education by the government. As opposed to just entering into a black hole of unaccountable waste, or as you seem to think, some sort of anti-inequality scheme. laugh