BTL in cash in my wifes name

BTL in cash in my wifes name

Author
Discussion

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
This may be a silly question....but is there any tax/legal issues that i should be aware if I buy a BTL property in cash and place it 100% in my wife name (who has no current earnings).

Of course then all rental income etc is applied against her taxcode i assume ?

Many Thanks


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
I've looked at this. Then I decided I didn't want to risk losing the whole lot should things turn sour!

Just be very aware that the short term tax benefit could cost you the whole property later.

Gixer968CS

599 posts

88 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Landcrab_Six said:
I've looked at this. Then I decided I didn't want to risk losing the whole lot should things turn sour!

Just be very aware that the short term tax benefit could cost you the whole property later.
If you're married it won't matter who's name the assets are in should you divorce as they are all assets of the marriage and therefore jointly owned and everything together gets thrown in the mix. I don't think there is a risk in that perspective.

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Thanks - I am not expecting a divorce at any time in the future....or not that i am aware of !


tight fart

2,897 posts

273 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
When you say cash I presume you mean without a mortgage.

Or do you mean buy it in cash and wait for her to get carted away for money laundering?

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Who's cash are you using to buy the property?

Candellara

1,876 posts

182 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
This may be a silly question....but is there any tax/legal issues that i should be aware if I buy a BTL property in cash and place it 100% in my wife name (who has no current earnings).

Of course then all rental income etc is applied against her taxcode i assume ?

Many Thanks
That doesn't wash with HMRC i'm afraid. As you're married they apply half against each of you tax wise. I was in this situation and 50% is based upon my Wife being a standard rate tax payer any 50% is my liability as a higher rate tax payer.

Set up a Company and run the BTL through that.

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
The cash would come from a joint savings account.

leef44

4,381 posts

153 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Candellara said:
lordturpin said:
This may be a silly question....but is there any tax/legal issues that i should be aware if I buy a BTL property in cash and place it 100% in my wife name (who has no current earnings).

Of course then all rental income etc is applied against her taxcode i assume ?

Many Thanks
That doesn't wash with HMRC i'm afraid. As you're married they apply half against each of you tax wise. I was in this situation and 50% is based upon my Wife being a standard rate tax payer any 50% is my liability as a higher rate tax payer.

Set up a Company and run the BTL through that.
Was that because the cash came from a joint bank account or does that not matter?

Did HMRC look at the source of the funds (i.e. you) and argued that it is a joint property despite the ownership title so apportioned income 50:50?

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
My initial enquiries around this seem to simply point to who owns the deeds, so if property is 100% in my wifes name then she gets the revenue and pays the tax regardless whether the purchase funds came from a joint account or inheritance or another

If its jointly owned in any way then then if reflects the split, normally joint ownership is 50/50 but could be anything.

996c2

470 posts

165 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
My understanding is that I can give as much of my money to my wife as I want without any inheritance tax implications.

She can then use this money to buy a BTL property and earn rent under her own tax code.

You'll need a solicitor to do the conveyancing so I am sure they can advice you on this point.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
This may be a silly question....but is there any tax/legal issues that i should be aware if I buy a BTL property in cash and place it 100% in my wife name (who has no current earnings).

Of course then all rental income etc is applied against her taxcode i assume ?

Many Thanks
None whatsoever. I've done it.

It will mean an extra tax Return to fill in every year if profits > £2,500.

Edited by Countdown on Monday 26th October 17:41

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
My initial enquiries around this seem to simply point to who owns the deeds, so if property is 100% in my wifes name then she gets the revenue and pays the tax regardless whether the purchase funds came from a joint account or inheritance or another

If its jointly owned in any way then then if reflects the split, normally joint ownership is 50/50 but could be anything.
Even then you can make a beneficial declaration so the entire income is treated as your wife's for tax purposes.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/income-...

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Countdown said:
None whatsoever. I've done it.

It will mean an extra tax Return to fill in every year if profits > £2,500.

Edited by Countdown on Monday 26th October 17:41
Profits ? There is no mortgage and not in a Ltd


Edited by lordturpin on Monday 26th October 20:05

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
Countdown said:
None whatsoever. I've done it.

It will mean an extra tax Return to fill in every year if profits > £2,500.

Edited by Countdown on Monday 26th October 17:41
Profits ? There is no mortgage and not in a Ltd

Edited by lordturpin on Monday 26th October 20:05
If its a BTL will it not be rented out? And if it is there will be income (rent) and expenditure (repairs and maintenance, gas safety certs, electric safety certs, bailiffs and locksmiths fees for eviction wink, possibly CGT) so hopefully she’ll make a profit, and if this exceeds £2,500 she’ll need to submit an SA100.....

lordturpin

Original Poster:

200 posts

178 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
Yes. Hope to hit that threshold, thank you

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
This may be a silly question....but is there any tax/legal issues that i should be aware if I buy a BTL property in cash and place it 100% in my wife name (who has no current earnings).
You can't "place it in her name". You'll make her a gift of the purchase price and then she buys the house. No problems whatsoever, the property will be hers, the income will be hers and it will be taxed as hers.

However, it's mind-bogglingly inefficient. BTL is taxed inside out and back to front, has high transaction costs, has tenant risk and is very illiquid. (i.e. sale is "all or nothing".)

Does SWMBO have ISAs? If not, why not?
Does SWMBO have pension? If not, why not?
Does SWMBO have other investments? If not, why not?

The everyman BTL party is well and truly over.

Soir

2,269 posts

239 months

Monday 26th October 2020
quotequote all
I was told by my accountant that although BTL house purchase is in joint names, you can put the tenancy agreement in my wife’s name and she will be taxed on the income. Not both of us.

Pit Pony

8,483 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Candellara said:
That doesn't wash with HMRC i'm afraid. As you're married they apply half against each of you tax wise. I was in this situation and 50% is based upon my Wife being a standard rate tax payer any 50% is my liability as a higher rate tax payer.

Set up a Company and run the BTL through that.
That's wrong. Whoever told you that wasn't a qualified accountant.
My wife owns 95% of our buy to lets. We purchased as tenants in common and then later declared the split to the hmrc. Form 17 by the way. She gets 95% of the profit and pays a little tax on it.
We are both jointly liable for 100% of the loan interest, but apportion that 95%/5% as advised by said same accountant.

Pit Pony

8,483 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
lordturpin said:
My initial enquiries around this seem to simply point to who owns the deeds, so if property is 100% in my wifes name then she gets the revenue and pays the tax regardless whether the purchase funds came from a joint account or inheritance or another

If its jointly owned in any way then then if reflects the split, normally joint ownership is 50/50 but could be anything.
Google Tenants in common verses joint tenants.