Your questions answered Vol 2 - IM Private Clients

Your questions answered Vol 2 - IM Private Clients

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2Btoo

3,422 posts

203 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot

dingg

3,984 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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JapanRed said:
Glad you are on the mend Julian.

Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?

Cheers. Rob
Nothing to get too excited about, yet.....

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-inflation-rise...

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Transitory or long term?

If salaries aren’t going up hard and fast with full employment, and interest rates rise, then debt servicing costs and new debt needed to drive consumption will be deflationary.

That is where Japan has been stuck for decades.

I thought economies overheated because of wage rises driven by high consumption and low unemployment?

Needless to say I wouldn’t invest based on inflation fears driven for now by a transitory economic anomaly.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Mr Whippy said:
Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Transitory or long term?

If salaries aren’t going up hard and fast with full employment, and interest rates rise, then debt servicing costs and new debt needed to drive consumption will be deflationary.

That is where Japan has been stuck for decades.

I thought economies overheated because of wage rises driven by high consumption and low unemployment?

Needless to say I wouldn’t invest based on inflation fears driven for now by a transitory economic anomaly.
One positive in this case is it's global inflation as opposed to 'UK' inflation relative to our trading partners. Shipping lines (scum bags) are taking the opportunity to shaft everyone.

Simpo Two

85,363 posts

265 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Burwood said:
Shipping lines (scum bags) are taking the opportunity to shaft everyone.
Invest in shipping lines? There's always somebody making money somewhere.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Burwood said:
Shipping lines (scum bags) are taking the opportunity to shaft everyone.
Invest in shipping lines? There's always somebody making money somewhere.
Hugely cyclical. But it's amusing reading several complete cretins on another thread laughing at importers, when it is them who will be paying a lot more for in the year or so ahead.

JapanRed

1,559 posts

111 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Cheers Burwood. If they are going to go up so much how come I can get a 10 year fixed mortgage for <2%.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Cheers Burwood. If they are going to go up so much how come I can get a 10 year fixed mortgage for <2%.
The simple answer is that the banks are taking a view that longer dated maturities will be far less impacted (the spike being short term). And they take that view based on other banks (the ones who lend to your bank) willingness to fund the 10 year mortgage at a rate with allows your bank to offer 2%. say 1.6 or whatever it is to give them a margin. Have a look at the 2 and 3 year and it will be higher. Interest rates are impacted by a number of factors, inflation being just one.

PS. Sub 2% is a great 10 year.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 21st June 10:51

Intelligent Money

Original Poster:

506 posts

63 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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JapanRed said:
Glad you are on the mend Julian.

Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?

Cheers. Rob
Hi Rob,

It will take more than a penny!!

As has been said UP is the obvious answer, how far is the million dollar rather than 1 penny question. Difficult to tell at the moment, commodities seem to be driven by low supply, high demand and a slow response/ability/desire to fill that gap rather than a pure increase in supply cost. This supply gap will be filled so at that point we will get a better idea what the real additional cost of supply is, post Covid and Brexit.
Consumers appear to have a pent up purchase desire and have built up reserves during lock down so in the short term have the funds to meet the increased costs, this will also likely pass and we will then see the supply/demand/ability to pay balance return.
In addition we wont really have a clear picture on the employment stats until we see the restrictions and furlough filter out of the system.

In summary a lot of moving parts and until we some of the transient influences move through the system it is difficult to see the underlying picture.
I wouldn't expect to see any major reaction to short term rises but the banks will have a watchful eye and if required I feel they will take action to keep things under control and as mentioned it is likely to be a global rather than regional issue.

So up, maybe more sharply that we normally expect in the short term, the general market/economic cycle is likely to correct/control this in the medium term but the banks may also step in if needed in the longer/medium term.

Cheers

Nik








JapanRed

1,559 posts

111 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Burwood said:
JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Cheers Burwood. If they are going to go up so much how come I can get a 10 year fixed mortgage for <2%.
The simple answer is that the banks are taking a view that longer dated maturities will be far less impacted (the spike being short term). And they take that view based on other banks (the ones who lend to your bank) willingness to fund the 10 year mortgage at a rate with allows your bank to offer 2%. say 1.6 or whatever it is to give them a margin. Have a look at the 2 and 3 year and it will be higher. Interest rates are impacted by a number of factors, inflation being just one.

PS. Sub 2% is a great 10 year.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 21st June 10:51
Thanks for this Burwood. Great knowledge. smile

JapanRed

1,559 posts

111 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Intelligent Money said:
JapanRed said:
Glad you are on the mend Julian.

Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?

Cheers. Rob
Hi Rob,

It will take more than a penny!!

As has been said UP is the obvious answer, how far is the million dollar rather than 1 penny question. Difficult to tell at the moment, commodities seem to be driven by low supply, high demand and a slow response/ability/desire to fill that gap rather than a pure increase in supply cost. This supply gap will be filled so at that point we will get a better idea what the real additional cost of supply is, post Covid and Brexit.
Consumers appear to have a pent up purchase desire and have built up reserves during lock down so in the short term have the funds to meet the increased costs, this will also likely pass and we will then see the supply/demand/ability to pay balance return.
In addition we wont really have a clear picture on the employment stats until we see the restrictions and furlough filter out of the system.

In summary a lot of moving parts and until we some of the transient influences move through the system it is difficult to see the underlying picture.
I wouldn't expect to see any major reaction to short term rises but the banks will have a watchful eye and if required I feel they will take action to keep things under control and as mentioned it is likely to be a global rather than regional issue.

So up, maybe more sharply that we normally expect in the short term, the general market/economic cycle is likely to correct/control this in the medium term but the banks may also step in if needed in the longer/medium term.

Cheers

Nik
Nik, as always, that’s a fantastic response. Thank you.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Cheers Burwood. If they are going to go up so much how come I can get a 10 year fixed mortgage for <2%.
The simple answer is that the banks are taking a view that longer dated maturities will be far less impacted (the spike being short term). And they take that view based on other banks (the ones who lend to your bank) willingness to fund the 10 year mortgage at a rate with allows your bank to offer 2%. say 1.6 or whatever it is to give them a margin. Have a look at the 2 and 3 year and it will be higher. Interest rates are impacted by a number of factors, inflation being just one.

PS. Sub 2% is a great 10 year.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 21st June 10:51
Thanks for this Burwood. Great knowledge. smile
I know just enough to be dangerous biggrin

Simpo Two

85,363 posts

265 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Burwood said:
I know just enough to be dangerous biggrin
No, that's me. You must be either more or less dangerous. Or we could set up an investment company called 'The Dangerous Brothers'?

JeremyH5

1,584 posts

135 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Burwood said:
JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
JapanRed said:
Burwood said:
2Btoo said:
JapanRed said:
Julian, Nick, Coops et al: a penny for your thoughts on where inflation might be heading over the next couple of years?
I'm not Julian, Coops or Nick by my answer is UP.
It’s up in the medium term. Up a lot
Cheers Burwood. If they are going to go up so much how come I can get a 10 year fixed mortgage for <2%.
The simple answer is that the banks are taking a view that longer dated maturities will be far less impacted (the spike being short term). And they take that view based on other banks (the ones who lend to your bank) willingness to fund the 10 year mortgage at a rate with allows your bank to offer 2%. say 1.6 or whatever it is to give them a margin. Have a look at the 2 and 3 year and it will be higher. Interest rates are impacted by a number of factors, inflation being just one.

PS. Sub 2% is a great 10 year.

Edited by Burwood on Monday 21st June 10:51
Thanks for this Burwood. Great knowledge. smile
I know just enough to be dangerous biggrin
A splendid achievement, one to which all right thinking people can aspire.
That’s what I tell myself, anyway.

SimonTheSailor

12,576 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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PH Sustainable up 0.53% already in just a few days.......by my reckoning that will be...err......quite good in a year's time !!

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Any update on when PHO will be launching?

CoopsIM

311 posts

45 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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KTF said:
Any update on when PHO will be launching?
Not as yet, watch this space as it is imminent smile

davey68

1,199 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Apologies but what is PHO?

droopsnoot

11,904 posts

242 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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davey68 said:
Apologies but what is PHO?
PH Opportunities, launched in the email last week, probably a post a page or two back. As it's nothing to do with the Pet Shop Boys, it hasn't been named "PH Opportunities (Let's make lots of money)".