Tax & IHT guidance - Intelligent Money Private Clients

Tax & IHT guidance - Intelligent Money Private Clients

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506 posts

63 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Whilst strong returns and keeping costs to a minimum are the key drivers to successful investing, there is another very important factor in play that can often be overlooked.

Tax efficiency for today and tomorrow cannot be ignored and robust advanced tax planning can make a big difference to your current and future financial position.

Whether it is ensuring you use all of your tax allowances every year to prevent a large future tax bill, or structuring your holdings to mitigate high inheritance tax (IHT) costs, there are many ways we can help you to understand the options open to you.

This is a free initial service to all PHers and a free ongoing service to all of our Private Clients.

Whilst, due to the very nature and individual variances of this subject, most people would wish to discuss this offline, however this thread is available for anyone wanting answers to generic questions on these matters.

If your post is not related to tax planning, we have four other threads:
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abph

25 posts

44 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Hi IM/Nik,

Firstly, just wanted to thank Intelligent Money for offering such service. I would like to be one of the first to get stuck in.

I have used a separate account given information provided below is in the public domain, and obviously sensitive.

My wife and I want to begin considering IHT implications of the below situation. We are both 34, and would like to consider the basics of IHT planning and vehicles to allow ease of passing to our two kids (come the fateful day). We have our investment strategy and personal finances dialed. We therefor would like to consider the basics of IHT planning and vehicles to allow easy of passing to our Kids (come the fateful day). Our current long term holdings thus:

Equities in GIA - £450k
Equities in Pension - £10k
Equities in ISA's - £30k

I anticipate ISA and pension to total over £1m with GIA over £3m in the next 20 years (assuming many things of course). We will own our currently mortgaged home outright by this time. We will be mid 50's by this time, and will then begin to draw down.

I have seen that Trusts are beginning to phase out, instead being replaced by Family Investment Companies. Is this something that
would benefit me/us, as we can then make our 2 kids share holders? Perhaps you could use the above example to show an estimated tax position and how this can be mitigated?

Thanks in advance and over to you!

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Point 1. Well done so far.
Point 2. Jeez that’s a lot in equities. Ever thought of a bit of commercial property, gilts, fixed interest, bonds etc?

TR4man

5,222 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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I’m very much a novice at investing, but why would the poster above ^^ have so much in a GIA and not be fully utilising their ISA allowances?

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Is this not advertising?

Ben Lowden

6,021 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

PH TEAM

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Is this not advertising?
It is and has been approved by PH, which is why it is marked as sponsored thumbup

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Ben Lowden said:
Eric Mc said:
Is this not advertising?
It is and has been approved by PH, which is why it is marked as sponsored thumbup
Backwards step IMO.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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I hadn't realised PH had gone down that route.

zbc

851 posts

151 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Can you only supply advice on UK tax as I have a question about a UK property that I am looking to sell? I live in France and there will be CGT implications in both UK and France as i understand it and before I go too far down this path I just want to go through a few points.

JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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abph said:
Hi IM/Nik,

Firstly, just wanted to thank Intelligent Money for offering such service. I would like to be one of the first to get stuck in.

I have used a separate account given information provided below is in the public domain, and obviously sensitive.

My wife and I want to begin considering IHT implications of the below situation. We are both 34, and would like to consider the basics of IHT planning and vehicles to allow ease of passing to our two kids (come the fateful day). We have our investment strategy and personal finances dialed. We therefor would like to consider the basics of IHT planning and vehicles to allow easy of passing to our Kids (come the fateful day). Our current long term holdings thus:

Equities in GIA - £450k
Equities in Pension - £10k
Equities in ISA's - £30k

I anticipate ISA and pension to total over £1m with GIA over £3m in the next 20 years (assuming many things of course). We will own our currently mortgaged home outright by this time. We will be mid 50's by this time, and will then begin to draw down.

I have seen that Trusts are beginning to phase out, instead being replaced by Family Investment Companies. Is this something that
would benefit me/us, as we can then make our 2 kids share holders? Perhaps you could use the above example to show an estimated tax position and how this can be mitigated?

Thanks in advance and over to you!
Nik is having a rather busy day right now but will get back to you shortly. This really is his area.

Cheers

Julian

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chip*

1,014 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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anonymous said:
[redacted]

tighnamara

2,188 posts

153 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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chip* said:
Not a fan of sponsored site myself.

Apart from the laughable continuous "I am not selling" pitch where most are invariably offered options and ideas leading to the door of IM products...

Anyway, my main issue is the lack of clarity / warning to the (especially newbie investors) forum readers who don't fully understand the difference between receiving regulated advice V's guidance/ info basis. IMO, the (much reduced) legal protection for consumers following the "guidance" route should be clearly labelled in the new sticky threads i.e. you/the consumers are on your own if the "guidance" wasn't suitable for your needs.

/not an IFA, just a casual forum reader

Edited by chip* on Wednesday 7th April 14:37
That’s a bit unfair comment.

https://private-client.intelligentmoney.com/

What is the real life legal protection with an IFA, yes it is in place but unless it’s a real rouge or very badly invested funds the likelihood of any repercussions / legal claims are very very unlikely.


Edited by tighnamara on Wednesday 7th April 20:45

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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tighnamara said:
That’s a bit unfair comment.

https://private-client.intelligentmoney.com/

What is the real life legal protection with an IFA, yes it is in place but unless it’s a real rouge or very badly invested funds the likelihood of any repercussions / legal claims are very very unlikely.
That's simply not correct. Why are their liability insurance premiums so high? Because they get found liable.

The Leaper

4,952 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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rockin said:
tighnamara said:
That’s a bit unfair comment.

https://private-client.intelligentmoney.com/

What is the real life legal protection with an IFA, yes it is in place but unless it’s a real rouge or very badly invested funds the likelihood of any repercussions / legal claims are very very unlikely.
That's simply not correct. Why are their liability insurance premiums so high? Because they get found liable.
That's not quite correct either. The premiums are so high because of POTENTIAL future liability claims. For example, the risk of an IFA giving inappropriate advice now regarding a pension transfer value could be very high but not discovered until many years later. Actually, if the time difference is substantial, the process of proving that the advice many years ago was inappropriate will itself be a challenge, and therefore expensive, so another factor for the PL insurer to take into account.

R.

JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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@abph

Nik has not been abe to get in touch with you as your PM is turned off. If you would like to have a chat over things with him please send him an email at nik.burrows@intelligentmoney.com and he will be more than happy to go over everything with you.

Cheers

Julian

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JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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zbc said:
Can you only supply advice on UK tax as I have a question about a UK property that I am looking to sell? I live in France and there will be CGT implications in both UK and France as i understand it and before I go too far down this path I just want to go through a few points.
Geberally speaking yes, just UK tax. However some of us have experience of living in other countries.

The last time I looked France had a strange rule whereby investments held in the UK were also subject to French tax, but UK property was exempt from this.

This was a couple of years ago and obviously things may have changed now, but it is still worth having a chat with Nik (nik.burrows@intelligentmoney.com).

Cheers

Julian

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JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Is this not advertising?
Do catch up Eric mate, we have been doing this for 2 1/2 years now. biggrin

Yes, of course there is a degree of advertising that comes from this, but we started out and continue to offer free information and guidance to fellow PHers on all things financial. I see that as being a service.

I have set aside a dedicated team of highly qualified and experienced professionals (including our in-house charted accountant), at IM's cost, to provide this free service to other PHers.

Cheers

Julian

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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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What's the point of a forum where the response to every question is going to be "contact us privately"?

abph

25 posts

44 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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JulianPH said:
@abph

Nik has not been abe to get in touch with you as your PM is turned off. If you would like to have a chat over things with him please send him an email at nik.burrows@intelligentmoney.com and he will be more than happy to go over everything with you.

Cheers

Julian

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Hi Julian,

I’ve now allowed for messages to be sent. As a thought however, I’d welcome Nik to reply publicly. It may be of value to others...

Abph

chip*

1,014 posts

228 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Excellent news to hear the Finance forum readers has a dedicated Chartered Accountant available for free! Do they have an email address for any personal tax questions? Will he / she introduce herself to the Finance forum?

No rush, I am going out for a MTB ride so be back in 2/3 hours. smile