Does money really buy happiness?

Does money really buy happiness?

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Not having enough money will certainly make someone unhappy. When I refer to not enough, I mean not enough for a basic living standard, shelter, food etc.

What about being able to buy whatever you want, whenever you want?

What about financially secure or wealthy people? Those who can maintain a lifestyle for a significant period, years, not months, weeks or days without an income?

When does the average wealthy person stop living beyond their means?

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Money gives you options.

Sometimes the options can be bad.

Stuart70

3,933 posts

183 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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I think Mr Maslow covered this pretty well…

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Stuart70 said:
I think Mr Maslow covered this pretty well…
But Mr Maslow is not on PH. biggrin

dundarach

5,017 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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No, but it helps someone who hasn't realised (or can't achieve) the secret to it...

Stuart70

3,933 posts

183 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Mr Spoon said:
Stuart70 said:
I think Mr Maslow covered this pretty well…
But Mr Maslow is not on PH. biggrin
He may be along shortly, I think he is busy extolling the virtues of the latest Dacia on another thread smile

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Mr Spoon said:
Not having enough money will certainly make someone unhappy. When I refer to not enough, I mean not enough for a basic living standard, shelter, food etc.

What about being able to buy whatever you want, whenever you want?

What about financially secure or wealthy people? Those who can maintain a lifestyle for a significant period, years, not months, weeks or days without an income?

When does the average wealthy person stop living beyond their means?
No. I think it can lead to a certain restlessness, not contentment.

bitchstewie

51,097 posts

210 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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I don't think it buys happiness but to paraphrase something I just read debt removes options having money adds them.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,324 posts

150 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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it doesn't buy happiness, but it allows you to be miserable in nicer surroundings.

AC43

11,473 posts

208 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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From the Rich bds Frenzy in Bike magazine in the 80's;

"Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a better class of misery".

Djtemeka

1,807 posts

192 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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I’d rather cry in a Bentley than a corsa biggrin

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Yes it does. If you enjoy the freedom to do what you want where and whenever you wish. If you appreciate nice stuff and it makes you smile to surround yourself with it. If you appreciate fine food and fine wines. If your mind, freed up from the stress and clutter that worrying about money brings, can focus on creative and intellectual pursuits and enjoying friends and family. If you get happiness from helping people out and contributing to charity regularly. Yes, money is the driving force behind happiness.

You’d have to be a sad sort to have wealth and not find happiness. And for that sort, even if life is a st sandwich, the more bread you have the less st you have to taste.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 14th May 09:32

highway

1,945 posts

260 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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No, but it lets your rent it for a while.

Shnozz

27,467 posts

271 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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roadsmash said:
Money gives you options.

Sometimes the options can be bad.
This. Gives you freedom, choices and the insurance to take some risks you might not otherwise.

Fusion777

2,225 posts

48 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Djtemeka said:
I’d rather cry in a Bentley than a corsa biggrin
But would you rather be happy in a Corsa than cry in a Bentley?

Money can also bring complications. Look at the number of threads we have on here analysing pension and investment strategies. If you have large amounts, some might feel or be pressured by obligations, or even guilt.

You could also fall into the Dan Bilzerian trap of becoming bored and numb because you have bought everything you ever wanted, and now there's nothing left for you to buy. You could argue he's just suffering from a lack of imagination though. He's probably also paranoid about whether people are hanging around with him just because he's rich. Do your friends like you for you, or for your money?

Simpo Two

85,345 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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I think contentment is more important. 'Happiness' is unsustainable. And yes, more wealth can bring bigger problems.

Very few people can buy whatever they want - tycoons, oligarchs, Saudi royals - at that level everything is effectively free. If you want a personal jet airliner - just ask your fixer to order one. It's not a life I'd care for.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Hang On said:
Yes it does. If you enjoy the freedom to do what you want where and whenever you wish. If you appreciate nice stuff and it makes you smile to surround yourself with it. If you appreciate fine food and fine wines. If your mind, freed up from the stress and clutter that worrying about money brings, can focus on creative and intellectual pursuits and enjoying friends and family. If you get happiness from helping people out and contributing to charity regularly. Yes, money is the driving force behind happiness.

You’d have to be a sad sort to have wealth and not find happiness. And for that sort, even if life is a st sandwich, the more bread you have the less st you have to taste.

Edited by Hang On on Saturday 14th May 09:32
But for me this can be achieved with a decent level of wealth (being "well off" in old terms). Potentially a couple of magnitudes different to genuine FU money which comes with very different challenges.

NortonES2

293 posts

48 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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As someone once said:-

I've been poor and miserable and also rich and miserable, rich is better.

Muzzer79

9,896 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Hang On said:
Yes it does. If you enjoy the freedom to do what you want where and whenever you wish. If you appreciate nice stuff and it makes you smile to surround yourself with it. If you appreciate fine food and fine wines. If your mind, freed up from the stress and clutter that worrying about money brings, can focus on creative and intellectual pursuits and enjoying friends and family. If you get happiness from helping people out and contributing to charity regularly. Yes, money is the driving force behind happiness.

You’d have to be a sad sort to have wealth and not find happiness. And for that sort, even if life is a st sandwich, the more bread you have the less st you have to taste.

Edited by Hang On on Saturday 14th May 09:32
There’s a lot of ‘ifs’ in your post, so it really should have opened with
“Yes it can” rather than “Yes it does”

Your last paragraph speaks volumes too. Some rich people are “sad sorts” ergo, for them, money cannot buy happiness.

Simpo Two

85,345 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
Your last paragraph speaks volumes too. Some rich people are “sad sorts” ergo, for them, money cannot buy happiness.
And by contrast some of the happiest people I know have very little money. But they have lots of friends and are just basically nice people. The only embuggerance is that when they invite you to a party you have to take your own food and drink because they can't afford to cater for 20 people.