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[dom9]

SXX.L moving up today as well as BOO.L (less so).

MTFB.L seems a bit stagnant, of late.

Petrofac is one I meant to keep an eye on... and didn't

[ecksjay]

terrydacktal said:

It doesn't mean that for you - your yield is still the same as when you bought.

I'm aware - it's purely some insight for those looking to buy in now. I bought it to trickle feed as a long term hold anyway, so really dont mind if it goes up or down. If down, I see it as an opportunity to accumulate cheaper. I want some good divis coming in within about 5yrs time, not so much an income but enough to be noticable.

[PotatoSalad]

dom9 said:

SXX.L moving up today as well as BOO.L (less so).

MTFB.L seems a bit stagnant, of late.

Petrofac is one I meant to keep an eye on... and didn't

I wouldn't expect much from MTFB until official word from the FDA.

Anyone holding CYAN:LSE?

Edited by PotatoSalad on Wednesday 19th July 17:55

[n3il123]

n3il123 said:

Has anyone looked into Bango? (BGO) I used to work for them, always a company on the cusp of the big breakthrough, i've had a small holding since last year and have made a really good return. I'm tempted to top up some more as I think the half year is going to show them breakeven/ profitable.

Just wondered what others thoughts were?

Guessing no one had any thoughts on this...... has paid off a lot more than my sxx holding anyway.

[dom9]

MTFB.L down 8% as I type!

[FredClogs]

dom9 said:

MTFB.L down 8% as I type!

Don't panic, virtually no trading volume, if I was a sceptical man id say its a ploy by the market makers to shake what's left on the tree into their baskets before the phase 3 trial results hit, which will be soon. Hold tight...

(obviously do your own research and don't rely on what idiots on the internet think)

[Shnozz]

I decided to sell a load this morning. All my holding in Sports Direct, SAR and in IG Index. The latter has been the only success from those and gained about 26% since buying in December 16.

Now eyeing up what to reinvest in.

[PotatoSalad]

MTFB bounced back a bit but still down. I'm holding it on my ISA so I'm not that worried about any short-term movements.

[Gallons Per Mile]

UKOG doing well now, a new RNS with good news. I'm in profit by about 30% after thinking I'd made a mistake and bought too high!

[limpsfield]

FredClogs said:

Don't panic, virtually no trading volume, if I was a sceptical man id say its a ploy by the market makers to shake what's left on the tree into their baskets before the phase 3 trial results hit, which will be soon.

Market makers "shaking the tree" is the biggest load of bks in investing. I think I first heard it in 1998.

My shares are going down : market makers are shaking the tree.
My shares are going up : move over Warren Buffet.

[43034]

limpsfield said:

Market makers "shaking the tree" is the biggest load of bks in investing. I think I first heard it in 1998.

My shares are going down : market makers are shaking the tree.
My shares are going up : move over Warren Buffet.

Indeed. It's up there with "Don't want to be out over the weekend" and many others for Investing Bullst Bingo

[p1stonhead]

limpsfield said:

FredClogs said:

Don't panic, virtually no trading volume, if I was a sceptical man id say its a ploy by the market makers to shake what's left on the tree into their baskets before the phase 3 trial results hit, which will be soon.

Market makers "shaking the tree" is the biggest load of bks in investing. I think I first heard it in 1998.

My shares are going down : market makers are shaking the tree.
My shares are going up : move over Warren Buffet.

Genuine question, what do you call it when a share tanks for about an hour say 50% then rises straight back up to where it was? Ive been stopped out and lost thousands a couple times due to that (setting a stop say 30% down on current price) and its pretty damn painful to say the least.

All I have ever heard is 'tree shake' as a term, but haven't actually seen conclusive proof as to whats happening?

For example, I got stopped out of SOU earlier this year to the tune of £3k profit I was sitting on because my stop got triggered but when I discovered it two hours after the 'event', the price was where it was last time I checked and huge dive in price was only about 15 minutes long.

[Alrey87]

Gallons Per Mile said:

UKOG doing well now, a new RNS with good news. I'm in profit by about 30% after thinking I'd made a mistake and bought too high!

I'm up about 40%... if I hadn't of sold previously and bought back in higher I would be up over 100% but I got worried about losing profits when it started dropping for a few days. Will try and do better this time!

[dom9]

Yeah, tough day for some of the forum favourites; BOO.L, SXX.L and MTFB.L

SXX.L particularly interesting as it opened nicely 'up'.

I'm just holding onto everything I have at the moment. News due for BOO.L and MTFB.L, which should be positive and nothing obvious going wrong at SXX.L.

[g4ry13]

Shnozz said:

I decided to sell a load this morning. All my holding in Sports Direct, SAR and in IG Index. The latter has been the only success from those and gained about 26% since buying in December 16.

Now eyeing up what to reinvest in.

I'm going to hang on to my IG and see if £8 is achievable.

I've been thinking about offloading KAZ and getting out before results.

[FredClogs]

p1stonhead said:

limpsfield said:

FredClogs said:

Don't panic, virtually no trading volume, if I was a sceptical man id say its a ploy by the market makers to shake what's left on the tree into their baskets before the phase 3 trial results hit, which will be soon.

Market makers "shaking the tree" is the biggest load of bks in investing. I think I first heard it in 1998.

My shares are going down : market makers are shaking the tree.
My shares are going up : move over Warren Buffet.

Genuine question, what do you call it when a share tanks for about an hour say 50% then rises straight back up to where it was? Ive been stopped out and lost thousands a couple times due to that (setting a stop say 30% down on current price) and its pretty damn painful to say the least.

All I have ever heard is 'tree shake' as a term, but haven't actually seen conclusive proof as to whats happening?

For example, I got stopped out of SOU earlier this year to the tune of £3k profit I was sitting on because my stop got triggered but when I discovered it two hours after the 'event', the price was where it was last time I checked and huge dive in price was only about 15 minutes long.

Indeed, market makers auction stock, they don't buy and sell it like we do, if you have enough capital you can start moving the bid around yourself, on aim stock with stagnant trading volumes its perfectly feasible, but of course you'd need a reason to make it worth your while and risk. I cant believe its not done because it's possible to do and on a stock like this on a day like today it really would not take huge amounts of money and decent profit can be made, especially if Mtfb end up going where its expected to go.

[Greshamst]

g4ry13 said:

Shnozz said:

I decided to sell a load this morning. All my holding in Sports Direct, SAR and in IG Index. The latter has been the only success from those and gained about 26% since buying in December 16.

Now eyeing up what to reinvest in.

I'm going to hang on to my IG and see if £8 is achievable

I'm holding on my IG too, although looking much more long term.

Yes they're going to lose some profit from the regulation changes, but I still think they're the most developed player amongst their peeers, in a good to position to swallow up competition that don't make it through the next years and it's been a very volatile few years politically and will continue to be so through Trump and Brexit, all leading to profit.

[PotatoSalad]

I just bought some AST:LSE, a bit late as it's already gained a bit but looks like it could be the next UKOG.


http://shares.telegraph.co.uk/news/article.php?id=...

[limpsfield]

p1stonhead said:

Genuine question, what do you call it when a share tanks for about an hour say 50% then rises straight back up to where it was? Ive been stopped out and lost thousands a couple times due to that (setting a stop say 30% down on current price) and its pretty damn painful to say the least.

All I have ever heard is 'tree shake' as a term, but haven't actually seen conclusive proof as to whats happening?

For example, I got stopped out of SOU earlier this year to the tune of £3k profit I was sitting on because my stop got triggered but when I discovered it two hours after the 'event', the price was where it was last time I checked and huge dive in price was only about 15 minutes long.

Good question. I have no doubt that games do go on, but when people put every sell-off down to a market maker tree shake is when we are strictly into denial.

The volatility of individual shares in AIM is just something that people have to suck up if they are going to invest in these sort of companies. The AIM market is, I would suggest, not one for serious investors.

e.g.

Aim is more miss than hit for investors as it marks 20th anniversary

https://www.ft.com/content/5c1c3ba6-1513-11e5-9509...

"Investors had little to celebrate at the 20th anniversary of London’s Alternative Investment Market this week, as research revealed that nearly three quarters of the companies to have listed on the junior market have lost shareholders money."


I completely get the appeal though - finding the next BooHoo or ASOS or whoever. But there are so many stty companies in there that if I was investing I don't think I would set stop losses, I would write the money off as soon as I have bought, and I definitely would not follow prices during the day!

Good luck to all who sail on the good ship AIM.

[Jonboy_t]

PotatoSalad said:

I just bought some AST:LSE, a bit late as it's already gained a bit but looks like it could be the next UKOG.


http://shares.telegraph.co.uk/news/article.php?id=...

I've got some too, bought in at 2.5p so am down a bit at the moment, but looks promising. Not sure they'll be of the UKOG ilk, but I think there's definitely legs there.

IMO, there have been a few too many delays to the pipeline going live for me to be putting more on them yet. That and the ongoing issue of someone objecting to planning permission that's been dogging them for a long time. Seems the courts are in AST favour, but the nature of the law out there allows the claimant to file any number of objections, meaning they can't really go commercial until it's settled. Pain in the arse, but not insurmountable.