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Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
limpsfield said:
FredClogs said:
Don't panic, virtually no trading volume, if I was a sceptical man id say its a ploy by the market makers to shake what's left on the tree into their baskets before the phase 3 trial results hit, which will be soon.
Market makers "shaking the tree" is the biggest load of bks in investing. I think I first heard it in 1998.

My shares are going down : market makers are shaking the tree.
My shares are going up : move over Warren Buffet.
Genuine question, what do you call it when a share tanks for about an hour say 50% then rises straight back up to where it was? Ive been stopped out and lost thousands a couple times due to that (setting a stop say 30% down on current price) and its pretty damn painful to say the least.

All I have ever heard is 'tree shake' as a term, but haven't actually seen conclusive proof as to whats happening?

For example, I got stopped out of SOU earlier this year to the tune of £3k profit I was sitting on because my stop got triggered but when I discovered it two hours after the 'event', the price was where it was last time I checked and huge dive in price was only about 15 minutes long.
Poor liquidity causes huge swings. Very little illegal activity goes on but when shares are closely held the float is small. If you are seeing 50% in a day then my advice is stomach it or get out of that zone. Some of the plays are tantamount to gambling/coin toss. Penny stocks are risky for a reason. smile

dom9

8,068 posts

209 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Yep! One of mine dropped 32.6% yesterday but will bounce back next week...

Tiny volume of less than 20k (not all at the low price) of CAD0.16 shares.

Just got to hold your nerve if you believe in them biggrin

I'd have topped up but there is so little liquidity it's pretty much not worth it as there aren't many shares available at that price.

Gallons Per Mile

1,881 posts

107 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Alrey87 said:
Gallons Per Mile said:
UKOG doing well now, a new RNS with good news. I'm in profit by about 30% after thinking I'd made a mistake and bought too high!
I'm up about 40%... if I hadn't of sold previously and bought back in higher I would be up over 100% but I got worried about losing profits when it started dropping for a few days. Will try and do better this time!
Still in UKOG? My latest buys are up about 50% now. I bought a small amount at 2.5p a couple of years ago so they're over 100% now. I'll sell those ones soon, just waiting to hit around 6p, which might even happen today with a bit of luck!

bmwmike

6,941 posts

108 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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AMZN just keeps powering ahead. Got to be a brave soul buying at this level?

bad company

18,537 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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I set up a trade plan for my Provident Financial shares. The announcement and drop in price today activated the sale, not sure if I'm happy or disappointed. Provident was a good yield play which needs to be replaced.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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UKOG cloud9

Shame I didn't buy more, but am very happy with the outcome so far - nice weekend away paid for and maybe some oily upgrades for my camper if it keeps going smile. Plenty more to come I hope, news of an onshore oil field stretching many miles will be incredible, as long as it's extractable...!

Gallons Per Mile

1,881 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Jonboy_t said:
UKOG cloud9

Shame I didn't buy more, but am very happy with the outcome so far - nice weekend away paid for and maybe some oily upgrades for my camper if it keeps going smile. Plenty more to come I hope, news of an onshore oil field stretching many miles will be incredible, as long as it's extractable...!
Tell me about it! I'm up over 90% on my latest buys. Sold my original lot that I bought at 2.5p for about 6.8p so the rest is all free money. Going to hold and see what happens smile

bmwmike

6,941 posts

108 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Anyone in PSL photon star IOT LED lighting?


WindyCommon

3,370 posts

239 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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bmwmike said:
Anyone in PSL photon star IOT LED lighting?
Yep. Every morning in my bathroom.



bad company

18,537 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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bmwmike said:
Anyone in PSL photon star IOT LED lighting?
WTF is that all about?? confused

Alrey87

285 posts

105 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Sold a bit of my ukog today at 7.30 odd bought at 3.70. Worth 6k. Still got 270k shares in there but starting to wonder. I doubt it will be a linear path from here to 50p + if the flow tests etc are good. Expecting placings and drift back down in price while licences etc are applied for. I guess I will wait for flow test RNS before deciding my next move, for now i have a bit of profit locked in and reduced my risk a bit. Don't want to kick myself too much if they get bought out or it goes to mega money one day.

Gallons Per Mile

1,881 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Nicely done, 270k shares might be worth a lot of money quite soon!

Andrew-3ha0d

31 posts

83 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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New to the party but I am currently holding:

CTAG - Got burned on that one
DGOC
MYSQ
PREM
UKOG

PotatoSalad

601 posts

83 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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AST:LSE just over 20% up since last week, some big news expected early August. I might buy some more.

I'm also holding SXX, MTFB, KMK and CYAN on ISA and playing around with few companies on CFD, those stalled a bit but pre-market is moving up again and overall my CFD account is still up by good 35% in a month.


I've given up on crypto for now, apart from few LTC I'm keeping in a vague hope it might jump tenfold in few years. I just can't predict what's going to happen next.

oldaudi

1,312 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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What are peoples views on UKOG. I bought at 1.77 and trading in and out and still hold now at almost 9p. But, ive placed a stop loss at 8.2 so the slightest retrace and I sell the lot.

Is this a classic AIM pump and dump? Oil is there but no idea if it can even get to it

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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oldaudi said:
What are peoples views on UKOG. I bought at 1.77 and trading in and out and still hold now at almost 9p. But, ive placed a stop loss at 8.2 so the slightest retrace and I sell the lot.

Is this a classic AIM pump and dump? Oil is there but no idea if it can even get to it
I'm still in there at the moment and in a similar position to you, albeit have been in and out a few times (at the right times for once!!) so my average buy price is shown as higher than yours (2.6p). I've just set a stop at 7.8p to give me a nice round figure return, I'm sure it will be triggered in the next couple of days.

I'm still very positive about the company, what they're doing and what they will achieve, but to believe that an uplift like this on nothing more than sentiment and optimism will continue would be misguided IMHO. My 'game plan' (if you can have one on an AIM oiler!) is to just sit and watch with a pretty flexible stop in place as a safety net.

Fortunately I'm on nights this week and am staying in a hotel away from home, so have all day to sit in my pants watching the price fluctuate and can act pretty quickly. I believe at the moment that, if you're not in a position to respond quickly to UKOG, a tight stop is absolutely vital.


don29

364 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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PotatoSalad said:
AST:LSE just over 20% up since last week, some big news expected early August. I might buy some more.

I'm also holding SXX, MTFB, KMK and CYAN on ISA and playing around with few companies on CFD, those stalled a bit but pre-market is moving up again and overall my CFD account is still up by good 35% in a month.


I've given up on crypto for now, apart from few LTC I'm keeping in a vague hope it might jump tenfold in few years. I just can't predict what's going to happen next.
Still holding my AST too, very happy with recent performance. Looking forward to news on a few levels that will land in the next 1-5 weeks.

Gallons Per Mile

1,881 posts

107 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Jonboy_t said:
oldaudi said:
What are peoples views on UKOG. I bought at 1.77 and trading in and out and still hold now at almost 9p. But, ive placed a stop loss at 8.2 so the slightest retrace and I sell the lot.

Is this a classic AIM pump and dump? Oil is there but no idea if it can even get to it
I'm still in there at the moment and in a similar position to you, albeit have been in and out a few times (at the right times for once!!) so my average buy price is shown as higher than yours (2.6p). I've just set a stop at 7.8p to give me a nice round figure return, I'm sure it will be triggered in the next couple of days.

I'm still very positive about the company, what they're doing and what they will achieve, but to believe that an uplift like this on nothing more than sentiment and optimism will continue would be misguided IMHO. My 'game plan' (if you can have one on an AIM oiler!) is to just sit and watch with a pretty flexible stop in place as a safety net.

Fortunately I'm on nights this week and am staying in a hotel away from home, so have all day to sit in my pants watching the price fluctuate and can act pretty quickly. I believe at the moment that, if you're not in a position to respond quickly to UKOG, a tight stop is absolutely vital.
I'm going to be watching very closely over the next few days too. Surely this can't continue? But then if good news has leaked maybe it can. Over 120% up at the mo, risk free too. I'd like to turn magic money in to real money though!

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Gallons Per Mile said:
Jonboy_t said:
oldaudi said:
What are peoples views on UKOG. I bought at 1.77 and trading in and out and still hold now at almost 9p. But, ive placed a stop loss at 8.2 so the slightest retrace and I sell the lot.

Is this a classic AIM pump and dump? Oil is there but no idea if it can even get to it
I'm still in there at the moment and in a similar position to you, albeit have been in and out a few times (at the right times for once!!) so my average buy price is shown as higher than yours (2.6p). I've just set a stop at 7.8p to give me a nice round figure return, I'm sure it will be triggered in the next couple of days.

I'm still very positive about the company, what they're doing and what they will achieve, but to believe that an uplift like this on nothing more than sentiment and optimism will continue would be misguided IMHO. My 'game plan' (if you can have one on an AIM oiler!) is to just sit and watch with a pretty flexible stop in place as a safety net.

Fortunately I'm on nights this week and am staying in a hotel away from home, so have all day to sit in my pants watching the price fluctuate and can act pretty quickly. I believe at the moment that, if you're not in a position to respond quickly to UKOG, a tight stop is absolutely vital.
I'm going to be watching very closely over the next few days too. Surely this can't continue? But then if good news has leaked maybe it can. Over 120% up at the mo, risk free too. I'd like to turn magic money in to real money though!
WTF just happened there?!? Went to the shops and they went up to a shade over 11p! My stop got triggered at 7.71p though, but I can't see that it dropped that low?

PotatoSalad

601 posts

83 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Any thoughts on incoming FB announcement?
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