Best Wifi enabled thermostat
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I think if you are struggling to get over the cost of the evohome then maybe a punt on the wiser is for you.
I see evohome as a all or nothing type of setup, either you zone the whole house properly and enjoy the savings or don't bother.
Just buy the wiser from screwfix, so any issues are a easy return it swap. No post issues.
I see evohome as a all or nothing type of setup, either you zone the whole house properly and enjoy the savings or don't bother.
Just buy the wiser from screwfix, so any issues are a easy return it swap. No post issues.
Edited by shady lee on Thursday 23 November 15:29
Edited by shady lee on Thursday 23 November 15:31
shady lee said:
Just buy the wiser from screwfix
That's probably easier said than done! They still don't have any stock for delivery or at any stores anywhere near me.I'm interested to know how the Wiser behaves over time and will report back; but for the moment, it's been stable and works well. I don't see the point in the room thermostat though; it's too small to be used for displaying or setting anything other than that room's temperature. All the stuff displayed on the Evohome controller has to be accessed through an app, and that means you're a little bit tied into third party devices (i.e. a phone).
Jobbo said:
Don't you need the hot water cylinder kit as well?
At £170 for four TRVs, they're down to £42.50 each. I wonder how much the Drayton Wiser TRVs (£34.99 each RRP) will become when bundled together and more widely available?
ETA: not exactly a standard price, looking on eBay; you can't really refer to a lucky snipe as being the usual price!
Not a lucky snipe.At £170 for four TRVs, they're down to £42.50 each. I wonder how much the Drayton Wiser TRVs (£34.99 each RRP) will become when bundled together and more widely available?
ETA: not exactly a standard price, looking on eBay; you can't really refer to a lucky snipe as being the usual price!
Edited by Jobbo on Thursday 23 November 12:32
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honeywell-Evohome-Multi...
Zoon said:
So what (if anything) is the difference between HR92 and HR92UK? kambites said:
So what (if anything) is the difference between HR92 and HR92UK?
I think (but could be wrong) that the HR92 has the display upside down. eg https://ees.honeywell.com/sites/oem/en-gb//Pages/P...The UK being the right way up.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Is Tado considered to be reliable?
I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
i've just moved from a 2-bed property where I had a Tado controlling a combi boiler (without any zoning) for 3 years. The savings were significant, and not a single problem in the 3 years. I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
I'm happy with it, and will be installing a v3 thermostat plus extension kit in the new place this weekend. Will probably add in the smart TRVs if they're ever on offer.
Thought I would add some feedback on running Drayton Wiser, 5 weeks since install:-
I have the 2 Zone Hub, Room stat and 5 TRV's:-
Very easy to install, hub just replaces existing Programmer. Keep old programmer and old TRV's, enables easy reverse and backup if probs.
1st week spent tweaking schedules and temps. A couple of firmware updates happened automatically. Issues I encountered:
Batteries died in 2 TRV's - they are cheap Chinese batteries. This was just a one off the TRV's don't drain batteries after a few days which would be worrying.
TRV's upstairs in a couple of the bedrooms show 1 bar for connection but they are connected and function.
No probs with Android app, have it installed on both a Samsung Tablet and S7 phone. Cloud access works when not at home.
After the 1st week, I don't think about it now, it just works. The kit looks well built and blends into the home environment.
I am hoping with a finer control of temperature Gas usage should reduce, time will tell.
Drayton are supposed to be adding new features in the December update.
I have the 2 Zone Hub, Room stat and 5 TRV's:-
Very easy to install, hub just replaces existing Programmer. Keep old programmer and old TRV's, enables easy reverse and backup if probs.
1st week spent tweaking schedules and temps. A couple of firmware updates happened automatically. Issues I encountered:
Batteries died in 2 TRV's - they are cheap Chinese batteries. This was just a one off the TRV's don't drain batteries after a few days which would be worrying.
TRV's upstairs in a couple of the bedrooms show 1 bar for connection but they are connected and function.
No probs with Android app, have it installed on both a Samsung Tablet and S7 phone. Cloud access works when not at home.
After the 1st week, I don't think about it now, it just works. The kit looks well built and blends into the home environment.
I am hoping with a finer control of temperature Gas usage should reduce, time will tell.
Drayton are supposed to be adding new features in the December update.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Is Tado considered to be reliable?
I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
Yes, Tado is reliable. A few people have commented that their tech support is slow to reply recently though. My only complaint is that when I ordered in their black friday sale last November, they had a massive supply shortage, and it took them until March to deliver! I phoned them about it and they refused to part ship what they had in stock - told me I had to cancel and reorder separately, but then they wouldn't have honoured the discount. I thin that was probably a one off because the TRVs were new and they had a big back log of orders.I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
I had an email from them advertising 20% discount off starter kits between Dec 11th and 31st.
IrateNinja said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Is Tado considered to be reliable?
I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
i've just moved from a 2-bed property where I had a Tado controlling a combi boiler (without any zoning) for 3 years. The savings were significant, and not a single problem in the 3 years. I need a complete new system incl TRVs and UFH controllers and Tado seems to have a decent quality/price balance.
My current Worcester Wave system has been faultless , but unfortunately it cant do TRV or UFH control.
I'm happy with it, and will be installing a v3 thermostat plus extension kit in the new place this weekend. Will probably add in the smart TRVs if they're ever on offer.
I specced this before the new boiler was installed so saved around £90 by not having a programmer on the boiler. The installer was gobsmacked when I knocked it off his bill!!
I've no plans to over complicate it with TRV's and zoning - it just works and has made a huge difference on our bill.
dmsims said:
dickymint said:
Similar here. Wireless roomstat so bridge at the combi upstairs, single zone setup and no TRV's
If that's all your doing Tado is expensive
From memory it cost around £200 minus the £90 for not having a programmer on the boiler. Easily paid for that in the first year plus all the convenience of geofencing etc.Oh and it's useful as a Wifey tracker
Mum is selling her house, moving to an apartment with electric heating. We installed a full Evohome system a few months ago - Controller, 8x TRVs, hot water kit. About £700 of kit.
Wondering whether to remove it all and sell it, going back to the old mechanical TRVs and programmer. One issue is that the original setup didn't have a thermostat, as dad didn't like them. Probably a good idea to fit a room stat.
She has a basic (external pump and expansion vessel) oil boiler on S-Plan, digital programmer next to the boiler in the garage. Double surface box with blanking plate and some choc blocks as a wiring centre. It should be relatively simple to reinstate the original programmer, but what about a room stat? It's a long way from the garage to the hallway, so a basic wired roomstat would be hard to fit.
I wonder if it would be easiest to fit a combined wireless programmer/stat in the hallway, with the hub in the garage? If so, what's the cheapest option that works properly?
Finally, is there a market for a full, secondhand, Evohome setup that's only a few months old?
Wondering whether to remove it all and sell it, going back to the old mechanical TRVs and programmer. One issue is that the original setup didn't have a thermostat, as dad didn't like them. Probably a good idea to fit a room stat.
She has a basic (external pump and expansion vessel) oil boiler on S-Plan, digital programmer next to the boiler in the garage. Double surface box with blanking plate and some choc blocks as a wiring centre. It should be relatively simple to reinstate the original programmer, but what about a room stat? It's a long way from the garage to the hallway, so a basic wired roomstat would be hard to fit.
I wonder if it would be easiest to fit a combined wireless programmer/stat in the hallway, with the hub in the garage? If so, what's the cheapest option that works properly?
Finally, is there a market for a full, secondhand, Evohome setup that's only a few months old?
As an aside, our house doesn't have a thermostat. It's just the boiler (relatively new Worcester Bosch) with one of those analog timers and the radiators have TRV's. What would I need to do for something like the Wiser? Does it come with something that replaces the analog timer on the boiler? Would I need to get a thermostat installed or is that not necessary as it has that one with the screen?
Oakey said:
What would I need to do for something like the Wiser? Does it come with something that replaces the analog timer on the boiler?
Yes, the basic kit has two things - one is basically a 240 volt relay which would replace the timer unit you already have on the boiler. The other is the thermostat unit thing which talks to the first bit wirelessly to tell it when to turn on and off. This also talks to your wifi network to allow you to set thing up using a phone app. On top of that you can add things like smart TVRs, which can talk to the thermostat to tell it to turn the boiler on and off if a particular radiator is demanding heat.
Edited by kambites on Friday 24th November 13:36
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