Best Wifi enabled thermostat

Best Wifi enabled thermostat

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MaxSo

1,910 posts

95 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Another Tado query – if you have a schedule set up which says, for example, 21 degrees between 6am and 8am, will it make the boiler kick in before 6am so that the temperature has reached 21 by 6am, or does it start from 6am and keep going until it reaches 21. And does it turn off the boiler before 21 is reached to allow for residual heat in the radiators?

dickymint

24,332 posts

258 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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MaxSo said:
Another Tado query – if you have a schedule set up which says, for example, 21 degrees between 6am and 8am, will it make the boiler kick in before 6am so that the temperature has reached 21 by 6am, or does it start from 6am and keep going until it reaches 21. And does it turn off the boiler before 21 is reached to allow for residual heat in the radiators?
Yes if you enable the “early start” function

MaxSo

1,910 posts

95 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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dickymint said:
Yes if you enable the “early start” function
Excellent - I like that you can apparently enable or disable that feature too. Sounds good.

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Evohome (wifi version) + 4 rad stats for less than £330

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112661846910

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Is 170 ish best price for 4 hr92's

Terra1

266 posts

111 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Is 170 ish best price for 4 hr92's
That's a very good price and you'll only get it via an ebay seller. Most retailers sell for £190+

boxedin

1,354 posts

126 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Well Hive seems to have gone very south in the past three weeks or so, the Hub fails to be 'seen' by BG servers [1] on a regular basis.

Which means the remote aspect of the system is unavailable, FWP and all that jazz.

Are other people having increasing problems with Hive recently?

[1] though the ios app claims the hub is still connected ( but none of the devices are ), whereas the website says the hub is not connected.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Terra1 said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Is 170 ish best price for 4 hr92's
That's a very good price and you'll only get it via an ebay seller. Most retailers sell for £190+
Quite happy with using ebay

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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dmsims said:
Evohome (wifi version) + 4 rad stats for less than £330

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112661846910
It doesn't appear to include the unit which actually controls the boiler, which surely isn't very helpful?

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Further more

Dear dadsnet
Can you please advice on the correct thing to do with expanding my evohome solution.

Currently have 4 rads with hr92's and 8 without but but 3 of those are only lockshield valves 2x towel rads and the hallway what should I do with those should I swap them all or what?

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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kambites said:
dmsims said:
Evohome (wifi version) + 4 rad stats for less than £330

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112661846910
It doesn't appear to include the unit which actually controls the boiler, which surely isn't very helpful?
Yes it does smile

Both the box and description state 1x BDR91 Wireless Relay Box

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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So they do. Just no picture of it. smile

So that plus a £170 four valve kit would get us going for £500. We'd need another load of radiator valves to completely kit the house out but 8 would be enough to get most of the benefit. Still, it brings it far closer to the Wiser setup in terms of price.


Edited by kambites on Wednesday 29th November 20:00

IrateNinja

767 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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New house means a new Tado. Well at least, I had to add in the extension kit as there was only an old Drayton programmer. I got a decent deal on the bundle of the v3 stat/extension on eBay, so my v1 will get put on there as well as it's not been touched since I installed it 3 years ago.

The extension kit was even easier to fit as no wiring was involved. Straight on to the original backplate, so now I've got to decide the best place to mount the thermostat permanently.

shady lee

962 posts

182 months

Thursday 30th November 2017
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IrateNinja said:
New house means a new Tado. Well at least, I had to add in the extension kit as there was only an old Drayton programmer. I got a decent deal on the bundle of the v3 stat/extension on eBay, so my v1 will get put on there as well as it's not been touched since I installed it 3 years ago.

The extension kit was even easier to fit as no wiring was involved. Straight on to the original backplate, so now I've got to decide the best place to mount the thermostat permanently.
The issue with single thermostats is that if you put them in the living room the rest of the house is cold, if you put them in the hallway you are essentially heating the area that you walk past for no real reason.

That's what I like about zoned heating, you set the zone independently, and each zone can call for heat when it needs, rather than heating the whole house until trvs shut off etc.

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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shady lee said:
The issue with single thermostats is that if you put them in the living room the rest of the house is cold, if you put them in the hallway you are essentially heating the area that you walk past for no real reason.

That's what I like about zoned heating, you set the zone independently, and each zone can call for heat when it needs, rather than heating the whole house until trvs shut off etc.
This, single zone ones are just pretty toys

IrateNinja

767 posts

178 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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shady lee said:
The issue with single thermostats is that if you put them in the living room the rest of the house is cold, if you put them in the hallway you are essentially heating the area that you walk past for no real reason.

That's what I like about zoned heating, you set the zone independently, and each zone can call for heat when it needs, rather than heating the whole house until trvs shut off etc.
Oh I absolutely agree for larger properties. However, my previous place was a 2-bed flat, where the added benefit of multi-zone just wasn’t worth it. The second bedroom was basically unused so was off 90% of the time.

I’ll be zoning this house in due course, once we’ve settled in to a routine of how we use different rooms etc. As I’ve had Tado for significant time now, I’ve found it to be reliable and real asset, particularly with the geofencing. So I’ll be using their TRVs in the future (and keepin an eye on any deals available as to when to go ahead with it).

In the meantime, it will enhance our control over when and how much the house is heated.

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

228 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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MaxSo said:
dickymint said:
Yes if you enable the “early start” function
Excellent - I like that you can apparently enable or disable that feature too. Sounds good.
Definitely one up on the Nest then... very disappointed with mine, to the extent that I'm leaving it in the house when I move in a few weeks.
Nest's programming capability is incredibly limited, the lack of ability to turn that stupid early-start function off is just a tip of the iceberg.

I'm not sure what I'll do with the new house, I may go right back to something like this



Which, when combined with a decent condensing combi remains the most accurate and easiest to use system I've ever had and the only one that has allowed me to control my heating system to fit in with my life!

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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With evohome I tried to use ifft to do geo location last night and it worked except the Mrs is working from home today so it plunged her into an arctic wilderness of 14 deg

Is there any that will work with multiple occupant houses?

dickymint

24,332 posts

258 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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^^^ Tado

rdjohn

6,177 posts

195 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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This would be grounds for divorce, so I looked up IFFT in Google and did not understand the response.

I take it that I do not need to worry about it happening without interference?