Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

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AstonZagato

12,700 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
Mark Benson said:
If we're talking brave pills.......

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
I could sort that place out smile
We've a house in DL10, so know the area pretty well.
It would be far cheaper to knock it down and start again.

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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pistolpedro said:
Grand Designs house, think it also featured in the BT Broadband ad?

http://www.hamptons.co.uk/buy/property/5-bedroom-d...
My favourite GD house. Stunning thing.

Mark Benson said:
We also looked at this as a project http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... - it has what looks likely to be a collapsed drain under the house, resulting in a massive crack right through the house. It might not be a massive job, but then again would you take the risk?
The outbuildings were very tempting, the garage in the pictures is attached to a barn that would make a superb workshop/storage area for cars, and there are several other large barns plus stabling but all the outbuildings are seriously neglected, sadly.
Again, we passed on it - we could probably face doing the house or the outbuildings but not both and we'd never agree which of those would get done wink
I was about to say that that is very cheap, until you mentioned that it was going to split in two...!

MT is a lovely village. I looked at doing the 35 new houses on the edge of it as you head towards Middleton Lodge.

I reckon that you'd stand a good chance of getting planning for a couple of units at the back. Richmond isn't too good at delivering on their 5 year supply... Nice project if took the view that you could always live in the house if the additional units didn't come off.

Doofus

25,810 posts

173 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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ben5575 said:
pistolpedro said:
Grand Designs house, think it also featured in the BT Broadband ad?

http://www.hamptons.co.uk/buy/property/5-bedroom-d...
My favourite GD house. Stunning thing.
I don't get open plan. It's often lauded as being 'architectural', but it's essentially just a warehouse. Why spend four million quid on a house where you can't hear the telly if somebody is cooking, and where you can't send the kids to watch telly on their own?

A six bedroom house suggests at least three children, so that's five people watching telly, listening to music, cooking, doing homework and chatting all in one huge, echoy space, without even any soft furnishings to absorb noise.

Pointless, and not at all comfortable, IMO.

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Doofus said:
Pointless, and not at all comfortable, IMO.
I'd be happy enough sat on the floor stroking the gorgeous porcelain wall tiles whilst marvelling at the fact that they took the time to ensure that the joints above the bedroom window heads are all perfectly centred on the columns below.

The owner (albeit a complete loon iirc) has very good artistic taste as well, so I'm afraid I'd have to take his collection at the same time.

RC1807

12,532 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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ben5575 said:
Doofus said:
Pointless, and not at all comfortable, IMO.
I'd be happy enough sat on the floor stroking the gorgeous porcelain wall tiles whilst marvelling at the fact that they took the time to ensure that the joints above the bedroom window heads are all perfectly centred on the columns below.

The owner (albeit a complete loon iirc) has very good artistic taste as well, so I'm afraid I'd have to take his collection at the same time.
Yep, I'm with Ben, here. yes
The owner was super fastidious about EVERYTHING. I never thought I'd see that on the market.
AND, there's no way it's overlooked. He got a perfect plot surrounded by tress, IIRC.

p1stonhead

25,543 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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RC1807 said:
ben5575 said:
Doofus said:
Pointless, and not at all comfortable, IMO.
I'd be happy enough sat on the floor stroking the gorgeous porcelain wall tiles whilst marvelling at the fact that they took the time to ensure that the joints above the bedroom window heads are all perfectly centred on the columns below.

The owner (albeit a complete loon iirc) has very good artistic taste as well, so I'm afraid I'd have to take his collection at the same time.
Yep, I'm with Ben, here. yes
The owner was super fastidious about EVERYTHING. I never thought I'd see that on the market.
AND, there's no way it's overlooked. He got a perfect plot surrounded by tress, IIRC.
Im not normally for ultra modern but quite like that biggrin

Doofus

25,810 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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ben5575 said:
I'd be happy enough sat on the floor stroking the gorgeous porcelain wall tiles whilst marvelling at the fact that they took the time to ensure that the joints above the bedroom window heads are all perfectly centred on the columns below.

The owner (albeit a complete loon iirc) has very good artistic taste as well, so I'm afraid I'd have to take his collection at the same time.
I don't doubt that it was carefully designed and obsessively constructed, but it's a 'house' that's all about showing off, rather than living in.


CanningTown

163 posts

82 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Where's the curtains?

Mark Benson

7,514 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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PositronicRay said:
That one looks like a lovely project, but only 1 km from Scotch Corner, I'd have to think long and hard about traffic noise!
There's not too much noise, you're the other side of a hill which shields most of it. We live the other end of the village and apart from the odd siren and lost truck when there's a traffic jam you wouldn't know the A1 was there.

ben5575 said:
Mark Benson said:
We also looked at this as a project http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope... - it has what looks likely to be a collapsed drain under the house, resulting in a massive crack right through the house. It might not be a massive job, but then again would you take the risk?
The outbuildings were very tempting, the garage in the pictures is attached to a barn that would make a superb workshop/storage area for cars, and there are several other large barns plus stabling but all the outbuildings are seriously neglected, sadly.
Again, we passed on it - we could probably face doing the house or the outbuildings but not both and we'd never agree which of those would get done wink
I was about to say that that is very cheap, until you mentioned that it was going to split in two...!

MT is a lovely village. I looked at doing the 35 new houses on the edge of it as you head towards Middleton Lodge.

I reckon that you'd stand a good chance of getting planning for a couple of units at the back. Richmond isn't too good at delivering on their 5 year supply... Nice project if took the view that you could always live in the house if the additional units didn't come off.
We already live in MT and we want to stay so we're limited on choice which means thinking about a project - the farm, as you say could possibly support a couple more houses but access is tight so I'm not certain you'd get planning, even though Richmond are under pressure to increase housing in the village. If it's possible then I suspect we'd be outbid by a developer or it would have gone already.
Too much for me I think.
We have an architect coming round this afternoon to look at what we could reasonably do with the place we're in which might get my wife to commit to a plan of action (we've she's been flip-flopping for months about whether we move or develop).

Those 35 houses are still in planning 2 years after they were submitted - there's quite a vocal opposition in the village (drainage and run-off are already an issue and there's justifiable concern about plonking houses on one of the run-off areas and the mitigation the developer has proposed). If they could put them the other side of the school on the Croft road then the opposition would pretty much disappear as the run-off would flow away from the village, but road access isn't good enough according to the council chap I spoke to.

Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Damn you for actually linking the House I meant to think to in my Post biggrin !
Knowing you lived out that way I thought it was that one when there were duplicate links. Just helping out wink

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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We were involved early 2016. I see it finally got planning (s.106 signed) in Sept last year. The drainage issue was that the field drains all arrived at an undersized drain running underneath the 70's estate, backed up, flooded and as you say ran down the hill through the village. The plan was to attenuate and control the field run off to a level the drain could cope with and divert the any remaining run off from elsewhere into one of Adrian's other fields at the bottom of the village (by the Y junction) rather than hitting the bungalows at the bottom.

I'm going to get shouted at for going off topic!

Good luck with the architect!

bigandclever

13,787 posts

238 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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warp9 said:
Davey S2 said:
cossy400 said:
Absolutely nothing at all I even remotely like about that. Indian owners?

And WTF is the point of pic 14? unless the gaudy carriage clock is included in the sale as an inducement?
Agreed, vile in every way. And 2 kitchens?
Perween Warsi's house. Basically, ran a business providing ready meals to Asda, then it all went a bit wrong when Asda went to a different supplier and the company went into a death spiral and folded.

JF87

686 posts

121 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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That place is properly tragic, hewn from gold-plated hubris.

Went on the market in Nov 2015 at £2M.

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/s-founder-perween-...

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Might explain the two kitchens, if not the rest of it.

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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JF87 said:
That place is properly tragic, hewn from gold-plated hubris.

Went on the market in Nov 2015 at £2M.

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/s-founder-perween-...
"through estate agent Chewton Rose"

Must find that advert, they are kings at polishing and perfuming a turd - https://www.chewtonrose.co.uk/buying/6-bedroom-hou...

although I am disappointed by their "story" on this one, I guess the person who does them up north is a bit more akin to the grim realities of life.

pistolpedro

225 posts

167 months

p1stonhead

25,543 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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pistolpedro said:
vomit

Definitely the worst I have seen on here personally.

Reminds me of the inside of the Southbank Centre;



Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 21st June 13:21

Jobbo

12,972 posts

264 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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pistolpedro said:
Wow indeed. Looks like a 1960s church, or a sports hall in a new university.

Mark Benson

7,514 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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ben5575 said:
We were involved early 2016. I see it finally got planning (s.106 signed) in Sept last year. The drainage issue was that the field drains all arrived at an undersized drain running underneath the 70's estate, backed up, flooded and as you say ran down the hill through the village. The plan was to attenuate and control the field run off to a level the drain could cope with and divert the any remaining run off from elsewhere into one of Adrian's other fields at the bottom of the village (by the Y junction) rather than hitting the bungalows at the bottom.

I'm going to get shouted at for going off topic!

Good luck with the architect!
Sod the off topic, I've posted enough on here....

They've just done the first part of the diversion at the bottom of the village (bunded one side of the road and put three drains into the field at the other side) but found that the drain under the 70s houses was an old culvert that wasn't on anyone's plans as it was so old (clearly the Victorians knew about drainage). This appeared to have collapsed somewhere along it's length reducing the amount of water it could flow (it discharges into - in fact it becomes the stream running between the bungalows), however the problem remained in that the water that couldn't make it into the culvert still ended up at the same place (the stream) as it's the lowest point in the village so the problem would persist, hence the bunding.

It's a while since I heard much about the planning objections, last I heard though was that the developer's professional estimates and the objectors' professional estimates regarding what was likely to be needed differed significantly. One of the big questions was the amount of water the attenuation scheme could hold before it was overwhelmed.

The main diversion is yet to be done, it was started but then the contractor hit the culvert and investiagtions began anew....

CanningTown

163 posts

82 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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So much wasted space. That huge room with just 4 chairs in it. Why?

It's like a cheap hotel lobby. Awful.

Doofus

25,810 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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CanningTown said:
So much wasted space. That huge room with just 4 chairs in it. Why?
Because, thanks to the split levels, that part of the room is only 4.5m x 3m.

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