Bricks out of alignment - Is this acceptable

Bricks out of alignment - Is this acceptable

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roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Mandat said:
MDMA . said:
Why have they not cut out the half brick on the house and tied it in that way. Looks too far gone now. I'd fk them off now and cut your losses. Bit bodged IMO.
Simply due to the risk of differential settlement.

The new extension will invariably have deeper and more solid foundations than the original house (due to building reg requirements) therefore the extension won't be affected by ground movement to the same extent as the main house.

If the two parts of the building were tooth bonded together, you would potentially get cracking and damage at the joint.
This.

myvision

1,945 posts

136 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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That's bad I wouldn't accept that.

mikees

2,747 posts

172 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Still looks gash. Don't they normally tie in the blocks and cut and mesh the bricks for aesthetics? Eg look like tied in?

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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What year is the house?
Maybe a case of imperial and metric.
Very common.

ATTAK Z

10,997 posts

189 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Spudler said:
What year is the house?
Maybe a case of imperial and metric.
Very common.
It doesn't look like modular brickwork if that's what you're thinking ... looks like London Brick Heather to me from the photos ... available in 65 mm depth to give 75 mm courses

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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ATTAK Z said:
Spudler said:
What year is the house?
Maybe a case of imperial and metric.
Very common.
It doesn't look like modular brickwork if that's what you're thinking ... looks like London Brick Heather to me from the photos ... available in 65 mm depth to give 75 mm courses
Yep, delightful LBC Heathers.



akaAlso

38 posts

132 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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My advice is always to inset the new wall 50mm or so, much easier to mask a potential mismatch.
Couldn't work out from the photo how the rainwater discharges from the extension roof, but a downpipe strategically placed, even if it's a dummy, would probably do the trick?

paulwirral

3,132 posts

135 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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there's a lot of people who have no idea what they are talking about on this post , op probably accepted the cheapest quote and they threw the foundations in , bolted the wall starter to the existing brickwork and lashed it up as quick as possible to work to a price .

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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paulwirral said:
there's a lot of people who have no idea what they are talking about on this post , op probably accepted the cheapest quote and they threw the foundations in , bolted the wall starter to the existing brickwork and lashed it up as quick as possible to work to a price .
Indeed, I suspect the problem started with found level.

CoolHands

18,626 posts

195 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Personally, it doesn't bother me. Our kitchen extension is like that.

Four Litre

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2,019 posts

192 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Cheers all. Think the only way forward with this is going to be a very well spaced downpipe and a withold some ££.

Somebody mentioned that we went with the cheapest quote!!! Certainly didnt!!!

paulwirral

3,132 posts

135 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Four Litre said:
Cheers all. Think the only way forward with this is going to be a very well spaced downpipe and a withold some ££.

Somebody mentioned that we went with the cheapest quote!!! Certainly didnt!!!
It was me that said it , I wasn't trying to be cheeky , the contractor that did the work has put the brickwork up as quickly and cheaply as poss , wall starters are an accepted way of joining new to existing , ten mins to drill and bolt to existing brickwork as opposed to at least a day labour cutting out , joining and pointing . Unless you have the time to stand behind them and keep the bricklayer in check most will do it by this method , it's easy , quicker and ultimately more profitable .
Again , I'm not trying to run the job down or be a smartarse , can you check what they did at wall plate height ? There will be the same discrepancy . At least you'll have a good arguing point although I'll bet the contractor will say you didn't ask for a toothed or block bond joint and probably point out that building control had no problem with what they have done .
I think you have a case to knock a days labour off at the very least as that's what they saved , not to mention the aesthetics

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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No matter what they did IT WOULD NEVER HAVE MATCHED.
It never ever does, as mentioned earlier put a soil or rainwater pipe over it.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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227bhp said:
No matter what they did IT WOULD NEVER HAVE MATCHED.
It never ever does, as mentioned earlier put a soil or rainwater pipe over it.
Rubbish! Mine is near perfect - got the same bricks but where they've moved on in the quarry in the intervening time the colour has slightly changed and I reckon that will blend in over time. Even though I'd agreed with the builder for it to be properly tied in I caught the brickie installing a wall plate and starting to brick up to make a joint. Told him to stop and take it down. He was less than happy having effectively to undo a few hours work. Really pleased I did looking at the neighbours joint lines which are god awful.

OP this will bug you forever. Knock it down, clean up the bricks and start again. Find a better brickie or insist they cut tooth and bond.


227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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elanfan said:
227bhp said:
No matter what they did IT WOULD NEVER HAVE MATCHED.
It never ever does, as mentioned earlier put a soil or rainwater pipe over it.
Rubbish! Mine is near perfect - got the same bricks but where they've moved on in the quarry in the intervening time the colour has slightly changed and I reckon that will blend in over time. Even though I'd agreed with the builder for it to be properly tied in I caught the brickie installing a wall plate and starting to brick up to make a joint. Told him to stop and take it down. He was less than happy having effectively to undo a few hours work. Really pleased I did looking at the neighbours joint lines which are god awful.

OP this will bug you forever. Knock it down, clean up the bricks and start again. Find a better brickie or insist they cut tooth and bond.
Can we see a pic please, with custard etc.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I don't mind posting a pic but I'm disabled thesedays so I can't just rush out and do it and how I'd mount a pack of custard to a first floor extension I have no idea.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Crap quality image but it's a screen grab from streetview, you'll have to take my word for it being mine.

AWRacing

1,712 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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227bhp said:
No matter what they did IT WOULD NEVER HAVE MATCHED.
It never ever does, as mentioned earlier put a soil or rainwater pipe over it.
That's crap!
My builder managed to line the courses up perfectly on our extension

ATTAK Z

10,997 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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paulwirral said:
there's a lot of people who have no idea what they are talking about on this post ......
THIS ^^^^^^

Edited by ATTAK Z on Saturday 17th September 14:41

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

170 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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227bhp said:
No matter what they did IT WOULD NEVER HAVE MATCHED.
It never ever does, as mentioned earlier put a soil or rainwater pipe over it.
I cant even begin to stress how much this ^^ statement is WRONG.