No more nails or Gorilla Glue?

No more nails or Gorilla Glue?

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SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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I need to attach a soap and shampoo dispenser to our tiled bathroom wall. The tiles are very difficult to drill even with a diamond drill and it isn't possible to dill the grout lines because they are in the wrong place. The adhesive pads supplied with the dispenser, unsurprisingly, didn't work so I'm looking at glue.

The dispenser is about 2kg when full and gets put under load when it's used.

Will either No More Nails or Gorilla Glue be up to the job or am I going to have to risk cracking tiles in order to secure it properly?

steveo3002

10,493 posts

173 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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if you can tape it in place for 24hrs id try a pu sealer like tiger seal

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

252 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Can you try silicon first? Done properly it's stronger than you may think. The glues set hard whereas silicon doesn't.

dogbucket

1,200 posts

200 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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I know that Gripfill in the green tube is way better than No More Nails. Gorilla glue has a foaming action so may push the fixture away from the wall unless you can hold it tightly against whilst it drys.

battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Get some decent self adhesive pads, and get everything clean and dry before you stick it on.

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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I could buy some more super adhesive tape and do silicon as well. That would hold it in place while the silicon dried and provide extra adhesion.

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Tiger seal looks seriously heavy duty. I suppose if I did new adhesive pads, used silicon as adhesive and then silicones around the bracket that would provide more stick and stop the water running down the wall onto the pads.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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There isn't any tile that you can't drill through - you just need the right tools
http://www.builderdepot.co.uk/rubi-easy-gres-diamo...

bogie

16,342 posts

271 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Just used 3m pads last time and the fitting has stayed up for a few years now in the shower. 3m "command" I think they are, you can stick xxKg of pictures on walls with them

brianashley

500 posts

84 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Drilling through tiles is very simple and not expensive . Using a glue is not going to be good.

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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I agree about the drilling comments. However, our tiler went through double his usual number of drill bits fitting our bathroom and had to replace a tile which cracked when drilling to fit the shower screen. It just seems our tiles are unusually hard. Given the tile I'll be drilling is right next to the shower I'd prefer not to risk drilling it unless I have run out of options. I'll get some quality tape and silicone and see how that goes first. Appreciate the advice though.

sparkythecat

7,898 posts

254 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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AMG Merc said:
Can you try silicon first? Done properly it's stronger than you may think. The glues set hard whereas silicon doesn't.
I've done this before and it works very well indeed.
If your soap dish thingy breaks, goes rusty or you just decide on a change, it's fairly easy to remove it with a blade

Trustmeimadoctor

12,525 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Simplehuman usually supply pads and silicone worked very well for all our stuff not budged a mm

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Ours is simple human, but the pads alone weren't enough. It is asking a lot given they're holding 2kg on a wall that gets wet and the dispenser gets pumped several times a day.

I bought some 3m command pads for bathrooms and some Unibond all weather 100% adhesive and sealant. Fingers crossed.

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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I actually bought some unibond anti mouldy sealant as well. I'm going to try that first and take the 100% stuff back if it works. This sealant should be easier to clean off and replace in the future as earlier posters have advised.

battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Sounds fair. I'd avoid driling holes where possible because even if it works withoiut buggeration you have a permanent hole. 2 years down the track, you need a new soap dispenser, old one comes off, hole in the wall and suddenly SWMBO is demanding a new bathroom.

Am I wrong?

SonicHedgeHog

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2,534 posts

181 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Don't even go there....

jas xjr

11,309 posts

238 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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battered said:
Sounds fair. I'd avoid driling holes where possible because even if it works withoiut buggeration you have a permanent hole. 2 years down the track, you need a new soap dispenser, old one comes off, hole in the wall and suddenly SWMBO is demanding a new bathroom.

Am I wrong?
been there smile with the benefit of hindsight , i would drill the tile and keep a couple of tiles in a safe place, for future upgrades. there is not a tile made that cannot be drilled.

dudleybloke

19,718 posts

185 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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3M VHB tape will do it.

Tony Starks

2,089 posts

211 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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SonicHedgeHog said:
I agree about the drilling comments. However, our tiler went through double his usual number of drill bits fitting our bathroom and had to replace a tile which cracked when drilling to fit the shower screen. It just seems our tiles are unusually hard. Given the tile I'll be drilling is right next to the shower I'd prefer not to risk drilling it unless I have run out of options. I'll get some quality tape and silicone and see how that goes first. Appreciate the advice though.
If you have a spare , take to a water jet cutter.

Tiles by their nature are a pita. So many variables in their fabricaton cause all sorts of problems.

If you silicone, go for a neutral cure and use a squeegee, not your finger to clean up the excess.