Which burglar alarm?
Discussion
Countdown said:
They're not that bad IMHO.
It works out to £360 per year and includes servicing/repairs for non-user inflicted faults. For a decent alarm I guess you'd be looking at £1k plus anyway.
Plus Mrs C said we were having ADT........
Ours costs the same and it's nice not having to worry about maintaining it. It works out to £360 per year and includes servicing/repairs for non-user inflicted faults. For a decent alarm I guess you'd be looking at £1k plus anyway.
Plus Mrs C said we were having ADT........
Interested to see this thread. We have an old alarm system which I see as more a deterrent than anything else - i.e. if someone breaks in the alarm makes a racket in the house and scares them away. However, we were approached by a company called Rxxxn who were "fitting systems in our area" and could they come to talk with us. Bottom line is there is an installation charge, cost for extra sensors, registration with the police, and a charge for monitoring contract which over 5 years is about £4k in total. Told "stand alone" systems which depend on neighbours when the alarm sounds are not seen as a police priority and that a monitored system was the best security. Is this really the way ahead? I am concerned about the nature of the "monitoring", how it is activated and whether this represents value for money. At the end of the day it depends on the integrity of your telephone line - although for an extra cost you can have a sim card installed linking to a mobile network. I think maybe we stick to what we have - any views?
Beggarall said:
Interested to see this thread. We have an old alarm system which I see as more a deterrent than anything else - i.e. if someone breaks in the alarm makes a racket in the house and scares them away. However, we were approached by a company called Rxxxn who were "fitting systems in our area" and could they come to talk with us. Bottom line is there is an installation charge, cost for extra sensors, registration with the police, and a charge for monitoring contract which over 5 years is about £4k in total. Told "stand alone" systems which depend on neighbours when the alarm sounds are not seen as a police priority and that a monitored system was the best security. Is this really the way ahead? I am concerned about the nature of the "monitoring", how it is activated and whether this represents value for money. At the end of the day it depends on the integrity of your telephone line - although for an extra cost you can have a sim card installed linking to a mobile network. I think maybe we stick to what we have - any views?
Where do you live? If it is somewhere isolated then i would want monitored. If a terraced/semi then standalone would be fine.p.s. if you said no thanks to this lot, there would be less people "working in the area" as they only do it due to people like you inviting them in!!
Beggarall said:
Interested to see this thread. We have an old alarm system which I see as more a deterrent than anything else - i.e. if someone breaks in the alarm makes a racket in the house and scares them away. However, we were approached by a company called Rxxxn who were "fitting systems in our area" and could they come to talk with us. Bottom line is there is an installation charge, cost for extra sensors, registration with the police, and a charge for monitoring contract which over 5 years is about £4k in total. Told "stand alone" systems which depend on neighbours when the alarm sounds are not seen as a police priority and that a monitored system was the best security. Is this really the way ahead? I am concerned about the nature of the "monitoring", how it is activated and whether this represents value for money. At the end of the day it depends on the integrity of your telephone line - although for an extra cost you can have a sim card installed linking to a mobile network. I think maybe we stick to what we have - any views?
For the police to be called, two sensors have to be triggered as most false alarms are only single sensors being triggered. I replaced an old wired system about 5 years ago with a Euro 46 (castle caretech or pyronix I think) and used existing wiring, looking to update the panel to make it hybrid but so far has been excellent, never had a false alarm and looks ok and can use tags with it.
Cost me about £120 for the panel and £80 for an alarm company to swap over
Cost me about £120 for the panel and £80 for an alarm company to swap over
I've got two Texecom alarms, one in the house and one in the detached garage. The garage one has had a few false alarms from the PIR, what are good ways to stop these?
Typically they happen in the middle of the night, or when we are out, never when it is easy to go to the garage to switch the alarm off.
Typically they happen in the middle of the night, or when we are out, never when it is easy to go to the garage to switch the alarm off.
Craikeybaby said:
I've got two Texecom alarms, one in the house and one in the detached garage. The garage one has had a few false alarms from the PIR, what are good ways to stop these?
Typically they happen in the middle of the night, or when we are out, never when it is easy to go to the garage to switch the alarm off.
You could try swapping the PIR for a dual PIR/Microwave, I used them on a system I put into my MiLs over a decade ago and she never had a false alarm.Typically they happen in the middle of the night, or when we are out, never when it is easy to go to the garage to switch the alarm off.
As above - garages are draughty spaces. Switch out for a dualtech like https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intrud...
Pyronix, Bosch, etc all make similar.
Pyronix, Bosch, etc all make similar.
With regard to someone previously mentioning the words crooks in relation to ADT - as someone previously involved in specifying alarms I had a fair bit to do with various companies.
My twopenneth for what it's worth - ADT are or certainly were owned by Tyco, other Nationals could be regarded in the same vein. The big companies will have a lot of managers, sales managers, area managers, salesmen, engineers various premises to upkeep, fleets of vehicles to keep on the road, profit targets to meet as they will be answerable to the Plc board plus many other things. This has to be paid for hence they can be quite expensive compared to a lean mean keen local company/installer.
I wouldn't say there is much in the way of dishonesty involved. I found many of the same people moved around the industry from National to local, back again, set up their own companies, merged with another, sold out to nationals again and again. Very incestous industry.
My twopenneth for what it's worth - ADT are or certainly were owned by Tyco, other Nationals could be regarded in the same vein. The big companies will have a lot of managers, sales managers, area managers, salesmen, engineers various premises to upkeep, fleets of vehicles to keep on the road, profit targets to meet as they will be answerable to the Plc board plus many other things. This has to be paid for hence they can be quite expensive compared to a lean mean keen local company/installer.
I wouldn't say there is much in the way of dishonesty involved. I found many of the same people moved around the industry from National to local, back again, set up their own companies, merged with another, sold out to nationals again and again. Very incestous industry.
elanfan said:
With regard to someone previously mentioning the words crooks in relation to ADT - as someone previously involved in specifying alarms I had a fair bit to do with various companies.
My twopenneth for what it's worth - ADT are or certainly were owned by Tyco, other Nationals could be regarded in the same vein. The big companies will have a lot of managers, sales managers, area managers, salesmen, engineers various premises to upkeep, fleets of vehicles to keep on the road, profit targets to meet as they will be answerable to the Plc board plus many other things. This has to be paid for hence they can be quite expensive compared to a lean mean keen local company/installer.
I wouldn't say there is much in the way of dishonesty involved. I found many of the same people moved around the industry from National to local, back again, set up their own companies, merged with another, sold out to nationals again and again. Very incestous industry.
That is a bit like double gazing I would say. There are lots of 'caring family companies' who will quite happily rip you off to National company prices, A keel local installer is brilliant, but many smaller ones are also just as profit driven, so I wouldn't rule out a large company straightaway.My twopenneth for what it's worth - ADT are or certainly were owned by Tyco, other Nationals could be regarded in the same vein. The big companies will have a lot of managers, sales managers, area managers, salesmen, engineers various premises to upkeep, fleets of vehicles to keep on the road, profit targets to meet as they will be answerable to the Plc board plus many other things. This has to be paid for hence they can be quite expensive compared to a lean mean keen local company/installer.
I wouldn't say there is much in the way of dishonesty involved. I found many of the same people moved around the industry from National to local, back again, set up their own companies, merged with another, sold out to nationals again and again. Very incestous industry.
I have just been quoted for the following system costing £650 installed - Does anyone know if that sounds about right? Never had an alarm before!
The control panel to be a Risco Lightsys2 with a remote keypad operation, including proximity reader operation.
2 x proximity tags are included.
4 x wireless detection devices, 3 x movement detectors and 1 x contact transmitter.
1 x External wireless siren / strobe unit.
1 x wired dual tech movement detector (for the Garage - I am running the cable to the garage)
Thanks!
The control panel to be a Risco Lightsys2 with a remote keypad operation, including proximity reader operation.
2 x proximity tags are included.
4 x wireless detection devices, 3 x movement detectors and 1 x contact transmitter.
1 x External wireless siren / strobe unit.
1 x wired dual tech movement detector (for the Garage - I am running the cable to the garage)
Thanks!
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