Bodgers, bloody bodgers everywhere!!!
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Alucidnation said:
TA14 said:
Alucidnation said:
TA14 said:
Dogwatch said:
I share your pain but it is possible the bar would have been a match for his hacksaw if it was hardened steel.
No, the bar should just have been moved along the gate.gottans said:
It gets worse..
Apologies for the rotational alignment error..
Are you getting confused with the guide?Apologies for the rotational alignment error..
Prohibiting said:
That's absolutely awful. Christ. I've got one of those Cays locks. Brilliant keyable lock for a gate. Yours is upside down as well btw 
From inside my garden
Outside upon arrival
Not a bodge as such but I had to pad my gate and fence out with more timber strips to accomodiate the fixings of the lock and black latch.
In your picture why has he bolted it like that?! Does that mean you've got bolt heads showing on the other side randomly??
What's the point of that lock. Who would bother to go near the lock when you could just reach over with a screwdriver and the whole lock would be off with four screws?From inside my garden
Outside upon arrival
Not a bodge as such but I had to pad my gate and fence out with more timber strips to accomodiate the fixings of the lock and black latch.
In your picture why has he bolted it like that?! Does that mean you've got bolt heads showing on the other side randomly??
Edited by Prohibiting on Tuesday 18th July 21:47
julian64 said:
What's the point of that lock. Who would bother to go near the lock when you could just reach over with a screwdriver and the whole lock would be off with four screws?
We have the same lock on our gate as we usually use the back door as the cars are parked behind the house. It's great because you can easily lock/unlock the gate from either side. It's never going to be Fort Knox, but it's enough to prevent someone casually wandering in.No wooden gate is going to be that secure. Someone can always climb over, unscrew the lock, crowbar it open or simply kick it in.
julian64 said:
What's the point of that lock. Who would bother to go near the lock when you could just reach over with a screwdriver and the whole lock would be off with four screws?
My gate and fence is 6ft tall. You can't reach over. Plus if you climbed it and tried to reach over you'd have your arm chewed off, maybe. Pretty sure trying to thumble around from the otherside trying to unscrew big slotted screws would be pretty tough going- they're screwed in very tight! As said in my previous post, it's for a little extra security/peace of mind and to stop people accidentally opening the gate. I also don't want delivery drivers/random people able to simply waltz up my path. Although no one has ever attempted to yet anyway. As far as I'm concerned it's proving very useful more of a safety feature if anything. If anyone wanted it off, you could hacksaw through the bar if you're feeling brave.
Also had a sign made up:
I'm certain a combination of all of this is enough to make both a dumb and an intelligent burglar and/or gypsie not even attempt my house.
Edited by Prohibiting on Wednesday 19th July 10:16
Gareth79 said:
thebraketester said:
So if you want something doing that conforms to your level of fit and finish then the only way to do is to DIY... and at least if you DIY it and its not perfect, at least you saved some money along the way and learn something.
If most of the cost is labour and it looks straightforward then yep, I like to DIY it. If it goes wrong you can always get somebody in to fix it up (and watch them laugh and then quote double to fix it 
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k started this?!?" lie through your teeth and pray they don't have a connection with your FIL Prohibiting said:
Well yes, you could probably break through with a few big kicks or by climbing over the 6 foot gate....
...but then you'd be faced with my primary security system:
The lock is mainly to stop anyone accidentally opening the gate although you'd probably have to be incredibly stupid with a 40kg territorial male GSD barking and jumping up at the gate/fence with his spine fur spiked up along his back and tail sticking up 3ft in the air.
Also, the lock gives me greater peace of mind at night.
Honestly, forget a £5k CCTV/alarm system or whatever, nothing is more effective than him. He's starting to sleep outside now under my porch as it's cooler outside for him so I have virtually complete peace of mind at night too.
He's secondary, surely?...but then you'd be faced with my primary security system:
The lock is mainly to stop anyone accidentally opening the gate although you'd probably have to be incredibly stupid with a 40kg territorial male GSD barking and jumping up at the gate/fence with his spine fur spiked up along his back and tail sticking up 3ft in the air
.Also, the lock gives me greater peace of mind at night.
Honestly, forget a £5k CCTV/alarm system or whatever, nothing is more effective than him. He's starting to sleep outside now under my porch as it's cooler outside for him so I have virtually complete peace of mind at night too.
Friend of my wife's has a GSD. Went home to feed it and let it out at lunchtime and front door was smashed open. Assumed dog was out somewhere so went looking for it. Police found it asleep on bathroom floor.
I must say I haven't heard this, but they told her drugging dogs is common as so many households have dogs. Dog was fine, by the way.
Every time this topic comes up someone posts a picture of a "big" dog & alludes to being safe from burglars.
Think on, every burglar knows a spray of WD40 in the eyes renders a dog useless, however big it is.
Had 2 instances in my village where the dog has been shoved outside & then run over, in a narrow hallway for instance, think chair/shield/push away.
Think on, every burglar knows a spray of WD40 in the eyes renders a dog useless, however big it is.
Had 2 instances in my village where the dog has been shoved outside & then run over, in a narrow hallway for instance, think chair/shield/push away.
Dogwatch said:
gottans said:
Rather than shorten the bar he basically gouges a clearance for the bar in the brick wall of my house!
I share your pain but it is possible the bar would have been a match for his hacksaw if it was hardened steel. Having said that i did once have to hacksaw a Krooklock (dropped keys) and was shocked at how easy it was if you selected the right bit to cut through.
andy43 said:
Prohibiting said:
Also had a sign made up:
I'm certain a combination of all of this is enough to make both a dumb and an intelligent burglar and/or gypsie not even attempt my house.
Bodge. Dog is on wrong side of gate I'm certain a combination of all of this is enough to make both a dumb and an intelligent burglar and/or gypsie not even attempt my house.
Edited by Prohibiting on Wednesday 19th July 10:16
TA14 said:
There's plenty of room for the correct positioning of the fixings unless you're suggesting that the gate is only 10" wide.
Maybe they'd fitted the part with the lock on first, from the other pictures that gets drilled through the gate so can't really move it once in place, not without leaving huge holes or replacing gate posts.kinabalu said:
Every time this topic comes up someone posts a picture of a "big" dog & alludes to being safe from burglars.
Think on, every burglar knows a spray of WD40 in the eyes renders a dog useless, however big it is.
Had 2 instances in my village where the dog has been shoved outside & then run over, in a narrow hallway for instance, think chair/shield/push away.
This exactly , no real thief will be bothered by a dog , if it makes enough noise they go elsewhere , if they really want lies beyond the dog they will just drug it or kill it , real criminals aren't like the ones on movies unfortunately . Think on, every burglar knows a spray of WD40 in the eyes renders a dog useless, however big it is.
Had 2 instances in my village where the dog has been shoved outside & then run over, in a narrow hallway for instance, think chair/shield/push away.
DIy for me this weekend. Worrying when a wire brush can go through a soffit, even better when a normal paintbrush can too!
The cause? Flagrent bodgery. Whoever put that window finisher thing on must have known full well that it was only sealed at the bottom, not the top. Amazed I never had damp issues, sorted now but fk me ragged whoever was paid to do that job was meant to be a professional!
The cause? Flagrent bodgery. Whoever put that window finisher thing on must have known full well that it was only sealed at the bottom, not the top. Amazed I never had damp issues, sorted now but f
k me ragged whoever was paid to do that job was meant to be a professional!Prohibiting said:
My gate and fence is 6ft tall. You can't reach over. Plus if you climbed it and tried to reach over you'd have your arm chewed off, maybe. Pretty sure trying to thumble around from the otherside trying to unscrew big slotted screws would be pretty tough going- they're screwed in very tight! As said in my previous post, it's for a little extra security/peace of mind and to stop people accidentally opening the gate. I also don't want delivery drivers/random people able to simply waltz up my path. Although no one has ever attempted to yet anyway. As far as I'm concerned it's proving very useful more of a safety feature if anything.
If anyone wanted it off, you could hacksaw through the bar if you're feeling brave.
Also had a sign made up:
I'm certain a combination of all of this is enough to make both a dumb and an intelligent burglar and/or gypsie not even attempt my house.
I've had GSD'S for 35 years, usually a pair. Never had issues with people coming onto my property uninvited. I mentioned this to a traveller I worked with and he said guard dogs could be poisoned or strangled with snares if the need arose If anyone wanted it off, you could hacksaw through the bar if you're feeling brave.
Also had a sign made up:
I'm certain a combination of all of this is enough to make both a dumb and an intelligent burglar and/or gypsie not even attempt my house.
Edited by Prohibiting on Wednesday 19th July 10:16
My contribution to bodging...
A few years ago we moved into a new build, it came with a small shed in the garden with a hole cut into the floor, into which a ground anchor had been cemented into the ground. One of these:
We recently decided we wanted a bigger shed and didn't want the ground anchor. Getting rid of the shed was easy, but it left us with the anchor sticking out the ground. New shed was to go on top, but there wouldn't be enough clearance. I did toy with buying/hiring an angle grinder to cut it off properly at ground level, but in the end used a hack saw Did the job surprisingly well, but did get through a couple of blades. If the shed every goes we will be left with a 2 inch pipe sticking out the ground though...
Just to counter this (and keeping with the above gate lock theme), I don't bodge everything:
A few years ago we moved into a new build, it came with a small shed in the garden with a hole cut into the floor, into which a ground anchor had been cemented into the ground. One of these:
We recently decided we wanted a bigger shed and didn't want the ground anchor. Getting rid of the shed was easy, but it left us with the anchor sticking out the ground. New shed was to go on top, but there wouldn't be enough clearance. I did toy with buying/hiring an angle grinder to cut it off properly at ground level, but in the end used a hack saw
Did the job surprisingly well, but did get through a couple of blades. If the shed every goes we will be left with a 2 inch pipe sticking out the ground though...Just to counter this (and keeping with the above gate lock theme), I don't bodge everything:
I don't see how that is secure tho?
The lock is totally defeated by the hasp on the right which can be removed with a spanner, or in this case with big slots like that, even a well wielded spoon, spade edge, part of a bbq whatever.
Why do people put garden locks o with anything other than 1 way security bolts? Why are they designed with all exposed fixings? I'd's madness, I tell yee!
The lock is totally defeated by the hasp on the right which can be removed with a spanner, or in this case with big slots like that, even a well wielded spoon, spade edge, part of a bbq whatever.
Why do people put garden locks o with anything other than 1 way security bolts? Why are they designed with all exposed fixings? I'd's madness, I tell yee!
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