Builder almost brought the house down..literally

Builder almost brought the house down..literally

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Cogcog

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11,800 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Boss is staying on the beach. They say it was a clerical error that he was booked in for Thursday, he is away until the weekend.

Today they have been trying to press on, finish the steels and get her to look at the stitching bars they have in mind. She has just emailed them telling them that they must stop work once the steels aresdry-filled for the engineer to inspect. Then and only then can they take out the needes and props. She then wants them to stop again once the plaster is off for the engineer to say what needs to be done, and again after the repairs are made for the engineer to inspect before they replaster.

They have their 'best man' supervising on site but today are using two new sub contractors under his direction. The 'best man' is the uncle of the shovel boy and brother of the sun lounging boss I hear.


Rosscow

8,755 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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This is the thing of nightmares.

Sounds like a huge property!

I'll stick to my large timber framed bungalow hehe

Joe5y

1,501 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Rosscow said:
This is the thing of nightmares.

Sounds like a huge property!

I'll stick to my large timber framed bungalow hehe

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
Today they have been trying to press on, finish the steels and get her to look at the stitching bars they have in mind. She has just emailed them telling them that they must stop work once the steels aresdry-filled for the engineer to inspect. Then and only then can they take out the needes and props.
You want to be careful what brief they're all working to here. Once the building has moved you either need to rebuild the brickwork or accept that you have a distorted building. Stitching will restore the strength but won't correct the shape of the structure, for example: window openings. Of course if it's only a tiny movement of a mm then it's not worth worrying about but 20mm will be like having a hunchback.

Cogcog

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11,800 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Today's little gift.

The floorboards had been lifted by the plumber last week and laid awaiting the carpenter to do the loose ones. This is what they did to get access for the steels and props.



Another nice job for them to do.

cossy400

3,161 posts

184 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Jesus Christ OP.

Sounds like they are wanting to press on to cover up as much as possible before the holidaying boss comes home.

You ll have to keep an eye on that.

Whats worse is you've gone above and beyond in paying extra to a proper outfit as such, and got the calcs etc for them and you still end up with this.

Id be pissed.

Cogcog

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11,800 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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I am thinking I am travelling down to sit on them all day foir the key bits and meetings. My daughter's is at work all day and her partner has their 6 month old baby, and lives some miles away so they can only pop in in the evning and between feeds/sleeps.

I have 2 weeks holiday...I know where I may be spending it.

dmsims

6,508 posts

267 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Time to kick them off the job

Mojooo

12,707 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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As someone who has been in a building dispute - take videos.

Pictures and notes do not amount to anywhere near what a video can do in terms of showing damage. Commentary is also useful.

It is also worth logging in a spreadsheet all expenditure especially anything over and above what was agreed and your own extra time.

Vaud

50,405 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
I am thinking I am travelling down to sit on them all day foir the key bits and meetings. My daughter's is at work all day and her partner has their 6 month old baby, and lives some miles away so they can only pop in in the evning and between feeds/sleeps.

I have 2 weeks holiday...I know where I may be spending it.
So who is project managing?

Cogcog

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11,800 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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They have a contracts manager. He admitted he had not visited the subbies but should have done.

This was supposed to be a quicks week's job to divide two rooms.

andy43

9,687 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
Today's little gift.

The floorboards had been lifted by the plumber last week and laid awaiting the carpenter to do the loose ones. This is what they did to get access for the steels and props.



Another nice job for them to do.
So this is their performance after they've sent broom boy home?
I feel for you. Thoroughly depressing.

Too Late

5,092 posts

235 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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mikeiow said:
I concur....but I would be inclined to keep a bloody close eye on them!
& they perhaps should be made aware of those costs incurred.....for reference later ;-)
Would you want them to perform the remedial work?

They strike me as a bunch of blaggers..

davgar

347 posts

97 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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NoIp = what should the accros be sat on?

NoIP said:
If they're sat on the earth then clearly those ones aren't doing st. You can probably push them over with your hand.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
Today's little gift.

The floorboards had been lifted by the plumber last week and laid awaiting the carpenter to do the loose ones. This is what they did to get access for the steels and props.



Another nice job for them to do.
Just in case I'm being a bit stupid - they cut the boards?

NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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davgar said:
NoIp = what should the accros be sat on?

NoIP said:
If they're sat on the earth then clearly those ones aren't doing st. You can probably push them over with your hand.
Something solid or something that is attached to something solid, like the floor joists if nothing better is available. Sitting them on soil is obviously not going to do st! I would have thought that was basic common sense to anyone with a brain without me needing to explain it further!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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NoIP said:
I would have thought that was basic common sense to anyone with a brain without me needing to explain it further!
It would appear that the lack of these is the issue!!!

Vaud

50,405 posts

155 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
They have a contracts manager. He admitted he had not visited the subbies but should have done.

This was supposed to be a quicks week's job to divide two rooms.
I suspect you are heading towards the "get them off site" and paying for remedial work with a subsequent small claim... with a complete loss of trust.

joshcowin

6,799 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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All I can say is I hope this gets sorted out. This is the problem with modern building forms subbing everything out, we have a small team of trusted guys but that incurs more expense!

Contact the builder who came out at short notice and gave advice, see if he will carry out the project to completion.

Look into him first however, insurances, past work everything you can. I offer this information on my first site visit, and recommend everyone to do the same for any building works.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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NoIP said:
davgar said:
NoIp = what should the accros be sat on?

NoIP said:
If they're sat on the earth then clearly those ones aren't doing st. You can probably push them over with your hand.
Something solid or something that is attached to something solid, like the floor joists if nothing better is available. Sitting them on soil is obviously not going to do st! I would have thought that was basic common sense to anyone with a brain without me needing to explain it further!
Any reason for that tone?

davgar I guess is a non-builder who has builders in and just wants to check it is ok.