Builder almost brought the house down..literally

Builder almost brought the house down..literally

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S100HP

12,678 posts

167 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Holy st!

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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That's shocking, my first step would be a call to the local authority building control ASAP, who will send someone one straight away as it's a potentially dangerous structure.

OzzyR1

5,721 posts

232 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Any update OP?

C Lee Farquar

4,068 posts

216 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I see a couple of posters have recommended contacting the mortgage provider.

What benefit would this have, do they have any liability or interest?

Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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C Lee Farquar said:
I see a couple of posters have recommended contacting the mortgage provider.

What benefit would this have, do they have any liability or interest?
I wouldn't have thought bringing it to their attention, or your own insurance company if there is one, would be a good idea at all.

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Muncher said:
That's shocking, my first step would be a call to the local authority building control ASAP, who will send someone one straight away as it's a potentially dangerous structure.
who is doing the building control on this?
the LA may be slightly more expensive than a private AI but they will turn up on site and still be there in 20-30- 100 years time

the "builders" who did this have not got a clue.

essayer

9,066 posts

194 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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anonymous said:
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Halifax: (ask for our permission to) "make any significant changes to your property that affect its structure or that add to it"

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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essayer said:
Halifax: (ask for our permission to) "make any significant changes to your property that affect its structure or that add to it"
Easier to get forgiveness rather than permission....

essayer

9,066 posts

194 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Muncher said:
Easier to get forgiveness rather than permission....
Not sure they'd be too forgiving if their security has been deconstructed into a pile of bricks !

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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C Lee Farquar said:
I see a couple of posters have recommended contacting the mortgage provider.

What benefit would this have, do they have any liability or interest?
The mortgage providers has an interest, the building insurance provider the final liability for any rebuild. The former interests coincide with the OP's daughter, to have the property restored to its original condition. They are going to have some form of a panel of suitably qualified structural engineers who familiar with this sort of situation. The contracts for mortgage and insurance will include some kind of notification clause.


Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 25th July 08:31

TooLateForAName

4,747 posts

184 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I'd be worried. But it is good news that its a big firm with substantial contracts.

I'm aware of a loft conversion firm near me that took on a substantial alteration project on a house and had a similar cock up. They did a pre-pack and walked away from it.

mikeiow

5,368 posts

130 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
C Lee Farquar said:
I see a couple of posters have recommended contacting the mortgage provider.

What benefit would this have, do they have any liability or interest?
The mortgage providers has an interest, the building insurance provider the liability for any rebuild. The former interests coincide with the OP's daughter, to have the property restored to its original condition. They are going to have some form of a panel of well qualified structural engineers who will familiar with this situation. The contracts for mortgage and insurance will include some kind of notification clause.
But surely the builder is the one who will have liability insurance, and is currently the one liable to ensure things are safe and work progresses correctly.
Provided you have 'employed them to do the work', I don't see why a mortgage lender would have any interest whatsoever in a *potential* issue that the builder is sorting out!

essayer said:
Muncher said:
Easier to get forgiveness rather than permission....
Not sure they'd be too forgiving if their security has been deconstructed into a pile of bricks !
No, but provided there is sufficient insurance on it, then why would they care?
I would not have considered contacting the mortgage company.....focus on the builder and their responsibility, and ensure they get on with the job safely!

Hope things progress well this week for your daughter!



Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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The builder isn't this chap?


C Lee Farquar

4,068 posts

216 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
C Lee Farquar said:
I see a couple of posters have recommended contacting the mortgage provider.

What benefit would this have, do they have any liability or interest?
The mortgage providers has an interest, the building insurance provider the liability for any rebuild. The former interests coincide with the OP's daughter, to have the property restored to its original condition. They are going to have some form of a panel of well qualified structural engineers who will familiar with this situation. The contracts for mortgage and insurance will include some kind of notification clause.
Ok, news to me.

I've never come across a lending source that has a panel of well qualified structural engineers.


Sheepshanks

32,757 posts

119 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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anonymous said:
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yes, they have an interest if there's a mortgage and I'm sure they would want to be involved. But what happens if they order the borrower to get it fixed pronto or else they'll call in the loan? And they'll start sticking their oar in about the work required.

And does insurance - if there is any, it's quite hard to get much cover on unoccupied property - really cover damage caused by your own builders? Imagine the terms they're going to impose once they understand what's happened.

tleefox

1,110 posts

148 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Cogcog said:
It looks like they have sub contracted this job who have then tried to do it as easily and quickly as possible. The conttract manager wants the same cowboys back on site to correct it.
Your daughter's contract (please tell me they have a contract!?!) is with the original builder - if they have chosen to sub it out that is their problem. Don't allow your daughter and / or husband to fall into the trap of being forced to deal with the subcontractor.

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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wow, that's bad.

Definitely get some expert opinions involved from your side.

Good luck with getting it sorted and please keep us updated.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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PH to OP - what happened today?!?!?!

Council Baby

19,741 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Jesus Christ

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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kiethton said:
PH to OP - what happened today?!?!?!
Update would be welcome.