Drill recommendation

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wjwren

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4,484 posts

134 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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After a new drill after my Stanley fatmax has given up. Is a combi drill the same as an impact driver and normal drill together?

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Id go for something like this. Twin set so combo drill and an impact driver

http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dlx2020sw-18v-3-0...

That will do 98% of stuff around the house etc

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Combi means it has a hammer function for masonry as well as normal drilling for wood/metal etc.

e.g

http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dhp459sfe-18v-3-0...


Edited by Toltec on Monday 24th July 11:34

wjwren

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4,484 posts

134 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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OK I think il get that Makita set. Is there any difference between the White Makita and Blue?

mgtony

4,014 posts

189 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Screwfix has a decent range for around a £100:

1x4ah battery:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776m1t-gb-18v-...

2x1.5ah batteries:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776s2t-gb-18v-...

Hitachi http://www.screwfix.com/p/hitachi-dv18dgl-jg-18v-2...
Bosch http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb18-2-li-plus-18...

Or a few Makitas for a few more quid.

All 13mm chucks on those as well. smile

wjwren

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134 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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13mm chuck - what is the benefit on that?

megaphone

10,694 posts

250 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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What are you going to use it for? An impact driver is a waste of time for most diy'ers. You'll be better of with a decent combi drill than going for a 'twin set' with an impact driver.

I like Makita, their 18v Combi drills are great. 13mm chucks will hold bigger drills.

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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megaphone said:
What are you going to use it for? An impact driver is a waste of time for most diy'ers. You'll be better of with a decent combi drill than going for a 'twin set' with an impact driver.

I like Makita, their 18v Combi drills are great. 13mm chucks will hold bigger drills.
Disagree. There are times when a combi drill won't cut it for driving in screws effectively. Ok, the combi drill will do most things but when you need an impact you need an impact. Couple that twin set with a decent sds hammer and you are sorted.

Harry Flashman

19,283 posts

241 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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megaphone said:
What are you going to use it for? An impact driver is a waste of time for most diy'ers. You'll be better of with a decent combi drill than going for a 'twin set' with an impact driver.

I like Makita, their 18v Combi drills are great. 13mm chucks will hold bigger drills.
I use the impact driver more than the drill, frankly.

I have a Milwaukee 18V set - both are tough and have lasted through plenty of abuse. I also have the battery powered Milwaukee saw, which uses the same batteries. Buy something where the manufacturer has a decent range of stuff, so you can use the batteries and chargers interchangeably.

wjwren

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134 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Wood work etc. I put some decking down and borrowed an impact driver off a friend, they were brilliant.

megaphone

10,694 posts

250 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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wjwren said:
Wood work etc. I put some decking down and borrowed an impact driver off a friend, they were brilliant.
But will you ever use one again? A decent combi drill is far more useful.

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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mgtony said:
I've had this model for 3 years, fitted out a camper van, done loads of DIY and stuff in the garden, it's always had enough torque to drive in screws and the 2 smaller batteries mean you can charge one while using the other and never run out of power. Use this and an SDS, the corded drill hasn't seen the light of day except for mixing grout/adhesive etc.
Recommended, especially at the price, above this it appears to be the law of diminishing returns (I use cordless drills a lot but I'm not a professional and this seems to me to tbe sweet spot for a DIYer).

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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megaphone said:
wjwren said:
Wood work etc. I put some decking down and borrowed an impact driver off a friend, they were brilliant.
But will you ever use one again? A decent combi drill is far more useful.
Once you've used an impacter for screws you'll never want to screw with a combi drill again, if you'll pardon the pun, plus both machines at hand can be every handy eg pilot/screwing without constantly changing bits if the op can justify the extra.

bakerstreet

4,755 posts

164 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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hairyben said:
Once you've used an impacter for screws you'll never want to screw with a combi drill again, if you'll pardon the pun, plus both machines at hand can be every handy eg pilot/screwing without constantly changing bits if the op can justify the extra.
Agreed. I have an old 12V impact driver and I wouldn't be without it. Only downside is the low voltage. It won't do many 100mm screw before it dies frown

I also recommend Makita. Very happy with my stuff.

Accelebrate

5,244 posts

214 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Harry Flashman said:
I use the impact driver more than the drill, frankly.
yes Me too. One of my most used power tools.

megaphone

10,694 posts

250 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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hairyben said:
megaphone said:
wjwren said:
Wood work etc. I put some decking down and borrowed an impact driver off a friend, they were brilliant.
But will you ever use one again? A decent combi drill is far more useful.
Once you've used an impacter for screws you'll never want to screw with a combi drill again, if you'll pardon the pun, plus both machines at hand can be every handy e.g. pilot/screwing without constantly changing bits if the op can justify the extra.
But the OP is a DIY'er, how often will he be screwing long screws into wood? Of course, if he has the budget, then get an impact, but £100 spent on a decent combi, like the Dewault above, would be my recommendation .

hairyben

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182 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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bakerstreet said:
Agreed. I have an old 12V impact driver and I wouldn't be without it. Only downside is the low voltage. It won't do many 100mm screw before it dies frown

I also recommend Makita. Very happy with my stuff.
It's not the voltage affecting run time but the low battery capacity (Ah) that reduces as the packs age.

More voltage will give you more power/torque within reason but not all tools are equal, my panasonic stuffs only 14v but supposedly delivers more power than rival 18v kit. Modern good kit is so good that lower voltage stuff will tackle most jobs easily, if budget was a deciding factor I'd rather have 14v combi & impactor than an 18v combi alone

Murph7355

37,651 posts

255 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Bosch 18v blue stuff. It's great.

wjwren

Original Poster:

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134 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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My Stanley is 1.5ah, some of the pricey stuff is 5ah - is there much difference? Not that id be buying a £400 drill for DIY, just curious.

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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wjwren said:
My Stanley is 1.5ah, some of the pricey stuff is 5ah - is there much difference? Not that id be buying a £400 drill for DIY, just curious.
1.5ah vs 5ah is just the battery capacity.... a 4ah battery will last ~ 2x a 2ah battery under the same load.