Bath filler on wall side of bath
Discussion
Hi all,
I've just bought a showertime bath from bath store:
https://www.bathstore.com/products/showertime-ther...
The other half would like me to install it with the overflow to the wall. I was quite hoping to install an overflow bath filler. However I'm thinking this is a bad idea as there would be no access once installed...
What's the PH Collective view?
I've just bought a showertime bath from bath store:
https://www.bathstore.com/products/showertime-ther...
The other half would like me to install it with the overflow to the wall. I was quite hoping to install an overflow bath filler. However I'm thinking this is a bad idea as there would be no access once installed...
What's the PH Collective view?
I have looked at one of these:
https://www.tapwarehouse.com/product/bath-tap-easy...
Which would work with taps...
I was also hoping to use flexi-tails... not sure I fancy those lasting ten years plus!
https://www.tapwarehouse.com/product/bath-tap-easy...
Which would work with taps...
I was also hoping to use flexi-tails... not sure I fancy those lasting ten years plus!
Current one the Chrome has come off but that's because the numpty previous owners left a leaking tap over it for years (only needed the ceramic valves cleaning!)
Looking at it, I figure the overflow filler is actually clamped to the bath from the inside of the bath. So if I ever did need to get to it I could undo it and drop it back down again on its flexi pipes (I was planning to buy the metre long ones screwfix sell, although they are smaller bore than I'd like). Then use a string like to pull the thing back through again...
Should have bought a normal bath!!
Looking at it, I figure the overflow filler is actually clamped to the bath from the inside of the bath. So if I ever did need to get to it I could undo it and drop it back down again on its flexi pipes (I was planning to buy the metre long ones screwfix sell, although they are smaller bore than I'd like). Then use a string like to pull the thing back through again...
Should have bought a normal bath!!
We just changed our bath for this reason.
I had the original installed with taps etc against the wall. Mistake. Pain in the arse when you need to get to it. And it will only be a matter of time - partly in our case as we had a tap set with a diverter to a hair attachment.
I now have a singe mixer tap on the corner of the bath at the narrow end (bath is in a corner) at the front face. Out of the way but easy to get to if/when it needs attention.
Taps against the back wall were also harder to clean and encouraged mould.
I wouldn't put them against the wall again.
I had the original installed with taps etc against the wall. Mistake. Pain in the arse when you need to get to it. And it will only be a matter of time - partly in our case as we had a tap set with a diverter to a hair attachment.
I now have a singe mixer tap on the corner of the bath at the narrow end (bath is in a corner) at the front face. Out of the way but easy to get to if/when it needs attention.
Taps against the back wall were also harder to clean and encouraged mould.
I wouldn't put them against the wall again.
Pheo said:
Current one the Chrome has come off but that's because the numpty previous owners left a leaking tap over it for years (only needed the ceramic valves cleaning!)
Looking at it, I figure the overflow filler is actually clamped to the bath from the inside of the bath. So if I ever did need to get to it I could undo it and drop it back down again on its flexi pipes (I was planning to buy the metre long ones screwfix sell, although they are smaller bore than I'd like). Then use a string like to pull the thing back through again...
Should have bought a normal bath!!
You can get large bore flexi pipes, a quick search found theseLooking at it, I figure the overflow filler is actually clamped to the bath from the inside of the bath. So if I ever did need to get to it I could undo it and drop it back down again on its flexi pipes (I was planning to buy the metre long ones screwfix sell, although they are smaller bore than I'd like). Then use a string like to pull the thing back through again...
Should have bought a normal bath!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLEXIBLE-TAP-CONNECTOR-2...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HiFlow-Flexible-Connector...
Even then it looks like the inlet on the fitting is only about 15mm as it must be inside the 19mm rubber pipe to make the join.
Toltec said:
You can get large bore flexi pipes, a quick search found these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLEXIBLE-TAP-CONNECTOR-2...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HiFlow-Flexible-Connector...
Even then it looks like the inlet on the fitting is only about 15mm as it must be inside the 19mm rubber pipe to make the join.
🤣😂🤣😂 flexing pipe where you can't get back to them. What could possibly go wronghttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLEXIBLE-TAP-CONNECTOR-2...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HiFlow-Flexible-Connector...
Even then it looks like the inlet on the fitting is only about 15mm as it must be inside the 19mm rubber pipe to make the join.
I was wondering about a digital bath filler... and then maybe plumb it in polypipe rather than flexible.
Does anyone know if bath fillers are generally clamped from the front? If so I could probably get the thing out by removing the fixings and then pulling it down (if it's on a flexi). And then use a piece of string to pull a new one back up. In the event something blew.
And of course it's not on most of the time so the flexible wouldn't be holding pressure in this case. So a limited downside.
I've looked at the digital bath fillers. Very nice and tempted - but £300 odd is a lot of money to fill up a bath no? Vs just putting a mono bath tap in an accessible corner...
Does anyone know if bath fillers are generally clamped from the front? If so I could probably get the thing out by removing the fixings and then pulling it down (if it's on a flexi). And then use a piece of string to pull a new one back up. In the event something blew.
And of course it's not on most of the time so the flexible wouldn't be holding pressure in this case. So a limited downside.
I've looked at the digital bath fillers. Very nice and tempted - but £300 odd is a lot of money to fill up a bath no? Vs just putting a mono bath tap in an accessible corner...
Yeah they are dear. I put one in (and the shower) when we did our bathroom a few years ago.
The filler does slot in from the back (as its connected to the waste in one part) and the chrome part screws on from what I remember.
https://www.aqualisa.co.uk/Aqualisa/media/installa...
We hardly use ours, but in my eyes it was worth it to get rid of the dirt magnet that are "taps". Result is a much cleaner install.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_rA9jYKdQ
I would have no hesitation to fit another if we did another bathroom.
The filler does slot in from the back (as its connected to the waste in one part) and the chrome part screws on from what I remember.
https://www.aqualisa.co.uk/Aqualisa/media/installa...
We hardly use ours, but in my eyes it was worth it to get rid of the dirt magnet that are "taps". Result is a much cleaner install.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e_rA9jYKdQ
I would have no hesitation to fit another if we did another bathroom.
thebraketester said:
OP - note where the plumbing for that filler will be 
. (My mixer tap is fitted on the bath plinth in the corner around the same place).That install would probably do my OCD no good though ad I'd need the filler central
We have a side mounted tap & combined filler/over flow. We went for 12.5mm bore pipe to feed it (one for hot/one for cold) as I was concerned about fill rate - biggest screwfix had in stock. It was also because of this we went with two taps & not a ''shower mixer'' control, as apparently these can reduce the flow rate of water.
We went with this setup as I didn't want people bashing their knees when using the 'over bath' shower, or children bashing their heads on it during the frivolities of bath time. Also 2 people sharing a bath (
) , which obviously never materialised. 
It is on a stud wall & I just accepted that I'd need to go through the wall to access it in future if ever required! If you were slight of hand though, you might be able to unscrew the filler/overflow and hook the pipe work behind, and hold it in place whilst you screw the new filler into place? Something to maybe try during installation to see of any pitfalls.
Failing that, maybe consider a small access hole from underneath, through floor? Just enough that someone can get an arm up & to the side of the bath (proper outside box thinking now...?)
For what it's worth, whole setup works really well. Wouldn't change it.
Pic our ours below, all looks much darker then it is in reality....
We went with this setup as I didn't want people bashing their knees when using the 'over bath' shower, or children bashing their heads on it during the frivolities of bath time. Also 2 people sharing a bath (
) , which obviously never materialised. It is on a stud wall & I just accepted that I'd need to go through the wall to access it in future if ever required! If you were slight of hand though, you might be able to unscrew the filler/overflow and hook the pipe work behind, and hold it in place whilst you screw the new filler into place? Something to maybe try during installation to see of any pitfalls.
Failing that, maybe consider a small access hole from underneath, through floor? Just enough that someone can get an arm up & to the side of the bath (proper outside box thinking now...?)
For what it's worth, whole setup works really well. Wouldn't change it.
Pic our ours below, all looks much darker then it is in reality....
Thanks all.
Good idea about putting an access hatch in the floor "just in case"
I wonder if the filler is worth bothering with if I'm going to have to drill a hole in the bath anyway. I'm starting to wonder if a single mixer tap installed in the corner by the shower end of the bath might be the best option. Otherwise I still have to drill the holes for the valves even if I don't fit a tap.
The alternative being to flip the bath and have the shower at the "wrong" end or get a digital mixer, and use decent quality pipe work which will last the 15 years or so you expect a bathroom to last...
Digital filler would be cool admittedly! More things to go wrong though!
Good idea about putting an access hatch in the floor "just in case"
I wonder if the filler is worth bothering with if I'm going to have to drill a hole in the bath anyway. I'm starting to wonder if a single mixer tap installed in the corner by the shower end of the bath might be the best option. Otherwise I still have to drill the holes for the valves even if I don't fit a tap.
The alternative being to flip the bath and have the shower at the "wrong" end or get a digital mixer, and use decent quality pipe work which will last the 15 years or so you expect a bathroom to last...
Digital filler would be cool admittedly! More things to go wrong though!
I went through the same thought patterns you did, but there wasn't an easy solution for us due to the bath being enclosed all 3 sides by walls, with the 'open side' then blocked by the open door, shower glass & basin. Left us very few options..
Post up a pic of your bathroom and we can help suggest, I went through all of this 6 months ago and there are so many combinations of taps, filler necks, over fillers that can be mounted in every weird & whacky fashion.....
Thought about a bath waste filler? Pops up to fill the bath, then the entire assembly pops up to drain it. Mount the taps wherever you want, they don't even need to be on the bath providing you can route your pipes around the bathroom (as you would a shower...). Removable bath panel for future proofing the removal/replacement of it?
Post up a pic of your bathroom and we can help suggest, I went through all of this 6 months ago and there are so many combinations of taps, filler necks, over fillers that can be mounted in every weird & whacky fashion.....
Thought about a bath waste filler? Pops up to fill the bath, then the entire assembly pops up to drain it. Mount the taps wherever you want, they don't even need to be on the bath providing you can route your pipes around the bathroom (as you would a shower...). Removable bath panel for future proofing the removal/replacement of it?
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