What are the small details that give a quality finish?

What are the small details that give a quality finish?

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roogi

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245 posts

159 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Morning,

We moved house about 6 months ago and a starting to look at what work needs doing to it. It was built in the 70s and the structure is all fine, but some of it is looking tired and there are a number of jobs which need doing to smarten it up, namely: -

New skirting on stairs and some rooms (there is still some original skirting)
New carpets
Lots of creaking on stairs and floorboards - repair and fix
Painting/decorating
New tiles and flooring in bathrooms
New window sills - almost all of them have had a plastic sill added over the original wooden ones confused

Just looking for tips and advice on what details to consider to get a "quality" finish on the house. This is probably similar to the recent kitchen and bathroom threads where mistakes and lessons learned would be useful.

Blakeatron

2,515 posts

173 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Little bits like nice (not cheap, square edge) light switchs, sockets etc - not even metal ones, just a nice white plastic design.

Decent door handles and locks - nothing worse than wobbly handles.

Simply finish things properly, nothing worse than a room that been half arsed and completed 95%.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Lots of small details add up to a professional finish.

When installing tile or wooden flooring take the skirting boards off and re-fit afterwards. Nothing worse than that bloody beading or a grout line against skirting boards.

Oh and undercut the architrave too.

Don't paint round things (lights, switches, sockets, door handles). Take them off, paint, clean the fitting and re-fit.

8-P

2,758 posts

260 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I moved to our house nearly 2 years ago, it had had some big jobs done - new kitchen done nicely, new bathroom, windows etc BUT there were loads of small touches that needed sorting and had been done poorly or just needed doing. Way more than the below but Im nearly done with it now.

Such as

Silicone in bath, showers, sinks, all done now and looks so much cleaner and neater.
Grouting in areas where it had disappeared.
Lots of things just not screwed in or aligned properly.
Cleaning things that looked tired but came up new, limescale removal in our shower for example, it was horrendous.
Plugs fitted in sinks that didnt hold the water, simple adjustments again
Bleeding rads / balancing system
Filling odd holes and dents in walls and plaster, around light fittings etc.
Cabling outside - redundant BT cable running alll round the house, virgin media cable hanging off the wall etc
Borken underfloor heating(tile removed, repaired, chunk out of wall, re tile, fill, paint etc
Render to paint, wood work to paint, fences to paint




Shiv_P

2,747 posts

105 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Chrome/stainless switches and sockets really help
Skirting board in tiles if the flooring is tiles looks really smart
And fresh paint always helps

dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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8-P said:
I moved to our house nearly 2 years ago, it had had some big jobs done - new kitchen done nicely, new bathroom, windows etc BUT there were loads of small touches that needed sorting and had been done poorly or just needed doing. Way more than the below but Im nearly done with it now.
You moved into the same house!

e.g.

Nice oak floors but gaps around the radiators - oak collars fitted
Gap between floor and back door - threshold fitted
Quadrant UVPC fitted around shower bottom seal
Collar fitted to loo exit pipe
New loo seat
Stainless steel screws to replace the rusty ones furious



Tubes of caulk
Replace pine window sill with oak

etc

Fastchas

2,646 posts

121 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Proper preparation makes the finish look great. Don't underestimate the job of sanding the skirting boards, especially the boards alongside the stairs. Pull the carpets to one side, get a power sander and sand very smooth. I like to get waterbased undercoat, apply two thick coats and sand it again. Apply a third if you're happy with the finish then get the finest grade sand paper or even better, one of those abrasive sponges and just go over it again. Vacuum the boards in between coats (never brushpan!) before applying your topcoat liberally but pulling the paint with the brush to prevent runs.
When it dries it'll be a mirror finish. I had a house built in the 60's. Layers of poorly prepared paint were everywhere but my results improved it no end.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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B17NNS said:
Don't paint round things (lights, switches, sockets, door handles). Take them off, paint, clean the fitting and re-fit.
People actually do this rather than unscrew them, pull the away from the wall/remove then paint?

Why would you do that as they would get covered in paint.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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KTF said:
People actually do this rather than unscrew them
A lot of 'professional' decorators do this (and its certainly common on new build sites). I suspect average DIY'ers do it too.

I suppose it's a speed thing and also an unwillingness to 'mess' with electrics.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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KTF said:
B17NNS said:
Don't paint round things (lights, switches, sockets, door handles). Take them off, paint, clean the fitting and re-fit.
People actually do this rather than unscrew them, pull the away from the wall/remove then paint?

Why would you do that as they would get covered in paint.
It amazes/frustrates me when I see that people have done that!!

If you're painting a door surround, take all furniture off, including the hinges, so there's no risk of splatters/over paint. It bugs the st out of me when I see that!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Jonboy_t said:
If you're painting a door surround, take all furniture off, including the hinges, so there's no risk of splatters/over paint. It bugs the st out of me when I see that!
yes I'm the same. Takes a little longer but speeds up the actual painting process. Plus the finish is far superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpYRtWC8Kk

The attitude of a site painter.

8-P

2,758 posts

260 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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dmsims said:
You moved into the same house!

e.g.

Nice oak floors but gaps around the radiators - oak collars fitted
Gap between floor and back door - threshold fitted
Quadrant UVPC fitted around shower bottom seal
Collar fitted to loo exit pipe
New loo seat
Stainless steel screws to replace the rusty ones furious



Tubes of caulk
Replace pine window sill with oak

etc
I reckon so, my OCD was going mad and its only just about calmed down! I even had a bathroom with 1 out of 6 bulbs working, halogens obviously like all the others in the house I went straight to LED. Previous owners were really, really lazy. I just resprayed our wood burner lower flap thing because they had used a metal fire tool to open it which had basically chipped the crap out of it and made a nice new stove look tatty. I could go on, paint literally peeling off the ceiling in the bathroom - same one in which the taps were literally white in the shower due to limescale, dont think they had ever been cleaned, literally ever.


Ill be honest, when we looked at it we were ushered in and out quickly because they didnt think we were serious the cheeky tts and on a quick look the place was amazing. 30k later, Im half way to making it right. Lesson, dont buy a house on holiday without a second look.




Edited by 8-P on Monday 18th September 15:05

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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B17NNS said:
Jonboy_t said:
If you're painting a door surround, take all furniture off, including the hinges, so there's no risk of splatters/over paint. It bugs the st out of me when I see that!
yes I'm the same. Takes a little longer but speeds up the actual painting process. Plus the finish is far superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpYRtWC8Kk

The attitude of a site painter.
I managed to get about 3 minutes into that before I started shaking.

x type

912 posts

190 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Silly thing that really gets to me

light switches + sockets etc

the fixing screws you can see which hold the
front on

both have got to be straight across
or straight up

can't have them pointing different ways




dmsims

6,519 posts

267 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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x type said:
Silly thing that really gets to me

the fixing screws you can see which hold the
front on

both have got to be straight across
or straight up

can't have them pointing different ways

richatnort

3,026 posts

131 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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B17NNS said:
Jonboy_t said:
If you're painting a door surround, take all furniture off, including the hinges, so there's no risk of splatters/over paint. It bugs the st out of me when I see that!
yes I'm the same. Takes a little longer but speeds up the actual painting process. Plus the finish is far superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpYRtWC8Kk

The attitude of a site painter.
Let's not forget to take the radiators off the wall too and paint behind it because jesus that looks crap.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Floors being level when you go from one surface to another...door thresholds etc. Easy to skimp on and hard to get right. Wonky light switches drive me mad!

I am also a big believer in the quality of things like taps and door handles...good ones are expensive but to me it makes a big difference.

roogi

Original Poster:

245 posts

159 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Think this might be more work than I originally thought.

Door handles definitely need changing.

The gloss black kitchen will be a project for another time.

The house is lovely though rolleyes

BlueHave

4,651 posts

108 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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richatnort said:
B17NNS said:
Jonboy_t said:
If you're painting a door surround, take all furniture off, including the hinges, so there's no risk of splatters/over paint. It bugs the st out of me when I see that!
yes I'm the same. Takes a little longer but speeds up the actual painting process. Plus the finish is far superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpYRtWC8Kk

The attitude of a site painter.
Let's not forget to take the radiators off the wall too and paint behind it because jesus that looks crap.

I would say 99% of the population don't look behind their radiator or have the time to take the damn things off to paint behind them.

mask over the top of it then use one of those long 4in rollers and jobs a good un.

Voldemort

6,144 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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A couple of random ones from my house refurb last year.

We moved and replaced a couple of radiators with some nicely designed (ie expensive) ones. The vertical tube one in the hallway is always commented on by visitors and also throws out some serious heat when asked to.

I replaced all the locks with a set of keyed alike 5-lever locks. So now one key opens the porch, front, back and shed doors. I think it was around £80 and was worth every penny.