Neighbour wanting a front extension, not pleased.
Discussion
PartOfTheProblem said:
It's nice to see the dimensions on the plans, but bloody hell that's going to look awful. Sliding uPVC doors and polycarb roof? Wow. At least it will be brick built, which is something. I'd be miffed if it was next door to me, but there's no real reason to object to it.
Thanks for sharing the details, nice to actually have all of the info relating to a thread for once!
It's going to be largely wooden construction, with brick slips lower down. We agree, it will look dreadful, and a sliding patio door is a moronic idea. We had considered over bearing (I hope I've spelled it correctly this time!) would be a valid objection, but shockingly it seems isn't. All said let's just hope that planning see a reason to decline it. Thanks for sharing the details, nice to actually have all of the info relating to a thread for once!
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
It's going to be largely wooden construction, with brick slips lower down. We agree, it will look dreadful, and a sliding patio door is a moronic idea. We had considered over bearing (I hope I've spelled it correctly this time!) would be a valid objection, but shockingly it seems isn't. All said let's just hope that planning see a reason to decline it.
Oh gosh, I just looked at the elevations which showed brick, I didn't realise they were slips... I really wouldn;t be losing too much sleep over it, getting it moved over is a big win. I'd be looking forwards to getting your new fence and screening sorted
It's probably been covered already, but...
A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
Andeh1 said:
Alucidnation said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Ah for gods sake. You leave a thread unconcluded and you get told off. You attempt to do the opposite and you receive nobbish posts like the above 
Relax.
Taken years to perfect.
thebraketester said:
I don't understand why the owners cannot see that it is going to look w
k.
Brick built... a decent front door with side panels, solid roof with nice tiles and a couple of velux.... It could look "OK"
Instead of this...
Agreed, but that would cost him more, which is the crux of it all. He is as tight as trying to drive a Volvo in to a drinking straw.k.Brick built... a decent front door with side panels, solid roof with nice tiles and a couple of velux.... It could look "OK"
Instead of this...
We had proposed a suggestion that he moved the waste pipe to the other side of the door, then enclose that in a porch, but no, that would cost too much.
It's one of our few small hopes, that planning agree that it would look ridiculous, and decline it accordingly.
You're only the second person on the thread to cotton on to this IIRC, but I can't blame you for not wanting to read all 27(?) pages to check!
Below are two floorplans, not our houses, but others in the village of the same layout. They're L shaped. He's wide at the front, narrow at the back, we're narrow at the front, wide at the back. One advantage to our layout is a wider rear garden. The one shown of our layout is different, in as much that our bedroom 3 is now an upstairs bathroom, and the old downstairs bathroom is now a second reception area. This reception area is going to be swapped with the kitchen, to give a smaller (but still adequate) kitchen, and a larger reception area, also currently being extended by 4 metres.
We're also going to take a metre off bedroom 2 for a stairwell to the third storey, and it will become a 3 storey 3 bed.
Ours is a mirror image of the second floor plan, so it inter-locks with his, the first image.
Below are two floorplans, not our houses, but others in the village of the same layout. They're L shaped. He's wide at the front, narrow at the back, we're narrow at the front, wide at the back. One advantage to our layout is a wider rear garden. The one shown of our layout is different, in as much that our bedroom 3 is now an upstairs bathroom, and the old downstairs bathroom is now a second reception area. This reception area is going to be swapped with the kitchen, to give a smaller (but still adequate) kitchen, and a larger reception area, also currently being extended by 4 metres.
We're also going to take a metre off bedroom 2 for a stairwell to the third storey, and it will become a 3 storey 3 bed.
Ours is a mirror image of the second floor plan, so it inter-locks with his, the first image.
Edited by Fermit and Sexy Sarah on Wednesday 15th May 13:27
Alucidnation said:
Andeh1 said:
Alucidnation said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Ah for gods sake. You leave a thread unconcluded and you get told off. You attempt to do the opposite and you receive nobbish posts like the above
Relax.
Taken years to perfect.
Equus said:
It's a matter of public record.Application here if the link works (sometimes they time out).
Otherwise, it's application ref. 19//00240/FUL at Bolsover District Council, if anyone cares.
He's done well to get it validated, on the basis of those drawings: if I submitted that sort of crap as a professional agent, they'd throw it straight back at me.
Equus said:
It's a matter of public record.Application here if the link works (sometimes they time out).
Otherwise, it's application ref. 19//00240/FUL at Bolsover District Council, if anyone cares.
He's done well to get it validated, on the basis of those drawings: if I submitted that sort of crap as a professional agent, they'd throw it straight back at me.
Equus said:
Trouble is, have you seen the rest of the street? It's going to be difficult to argue that it is 'out of keeping with the local area'!
I was talking about you today as it happens. Mate is trying to extend a lovely detached property and has been knocked back as he's wanting to extend both sides of the front aspect.Don't suppose there's any way of contacting you professionally is there?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Don't suppose there's any way of contacting you professionally is there?
Yes, ping me a message via my profile.If you can give me the planning reference number and name of the Local Authority for the application that has been knocked back, I'll have a quick look to understand the reasons for refusal, and give you an initial view on what I think its prospects are.
Edited by Equus on Wednesday 15th May 20:56
21TonyK said:
It's probably been covered already, but...
A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
It has, but all valid points. the shared entrance element isn't uncommon in the village. The front yards were/are communal, but over the decades they have been dived up, which we have no issue with.A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
We agree that none up the road (Portland Terrace?) are on the boundary line.
And yes, the neighbours house was butchered by the previous owner, the none removed lintels tell the story of how it was intended. Logic would suggest putting it all right, but that costs more than he wishes to spend. Tight arse.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
21TonyK said:
It's probably been covered already, but...
A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
It has, but all valid points. the shared entrance element isn't uncommon in the village. The front yards were/are communal, but over the decades they have been dived up, which we have no issue with.A quick scoot around on google maps shows lots of porches on nearby properties, fair enough. But none of them that I can see are on properties that have a shared entrance area and none are in close proximity to the neighbours front door.
Also, just looking at the frontage it looks very much like your neighbours front door could have been moved at some point so it is closer to yours.
We agree that none up the road (Portland Terrace?) are on the boundary line.
And yes, the neighbours house was butchered by the previous owner, the none removed lintels tell the story of how it was intended. Logic would suggest putting it all right, but that costs more than he wishes to spend. Tight arse.
Unless you know their financial circumstances? For all we know that's their life savings going into something to improve their lot. Sorry but your post is well out of order.Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
dickymint said:
Unless you know their financial circumstances? For all we know that's their life savings going into something to improve their lot. Sorry but your post is well out of order.You've already told us that you're living in such a property, despite the fact that it is well below your means, because you want to be mortgage free by the age of 40, or whatever it was. That's your decision, but you have no right to impose the expectations that arise from your level of disposable income upon your neighbours.
I really am very glad that I don't live next door to you - you'd be absolutely horrified by the current state of my garden, for a start.
Equus said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
dickymint said:
Unless you know their financial circumstances? For all we know that's their life savings going into something to improve their lot. Sorry but your post is well out of order.You've already told us that you're living in such a property, despite the fact that it is well below your means, because you want to be mortgage free by the age of 40, or whatever it was. That's your decision, but you have no right to impose the expectations that arise from your level of disposable income upon your neighbours.
I really am very glad that I don't live next door to you - you'd be absolutely horrified by the current state of my garden, for a start.
t, and that they too would be unhappy. And if your garden's a state we too are glad we're not next door to it. In fairness, at least they keep their 'garden' (essentially a front yard) presentable and tasteful.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
We're not in Mansfield, that's a good 6 miles away. We're nearer Sherwood Forest...
That statement kind of says it all.Hyacinth Bouquet, much?
..but never mind the garden: think of the social advantages of being able to brag about your neighbour 'the well-known architect',
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