'Recyling centres' aka tips

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OMITN

2,137 posts

92 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
No recycling centres have an issue with low level DIY: painting, decorating, a bit of carpet or wood flooring etc.
Less and less IME.

FIL took a small carrier bag of broken tiles to the dump. "That's £3 sir". Hardly a full bathroom refurb..!

My local place is OK, but has now blocked off the containers where you could put any sort of hardcore/plasterboard/ceramics. You can only access it with a permit.

The trick definitely is to game the non-recyclable waste. I keep telling myself that, after this house renovation is complete, I'll become a responsible recycler again. But what's the point if the goal posts keep moving?

No wonder the sign at my local tip showing the % of waste recycled has changed from the 90% to the low 70s....

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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OMITN said:
V8mate said:
No recycling centres have an issue with low level DIY: painting, decorating, a bit of carpet or wood flooring etc.
Less and less IME.

FIL took a small carrier bag of broken tiles to the dump. "That's £3 sir". Hardly a full bathroom refurb..!

My local place is OK, but has now blocked off the containers where you could put any sort of hardcore/plasterboard/ceramics. You can only access it with a permit.

The trick definitely is to game the non-recyclable waste. I keep telling myself that, after this house renovation is complete, I'll become a responsible recycler again. But what's the point if the goal posts keep moving?

No wonder the sign at my local tip showing the % of waste recycled has changed from the 90% to the low 70s....
If it's only a small carrier bag why take it to the dump?

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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herewego said:
OMITN said:
V8mate said:
No recycling centres have an issue with low level DIY: painting, decorating, a bit of carpet or wood flooring etc.
Less and less IME.

FIL took a small carrier bag of broken tiles to the dump. "That's £3 sir". Hardly a full bathroom refurb..!

My local place is OK, but has now blocked off the containers where you could put any sort of hardcore/plasterboard/ceramics. You can only access it with a permit.

The trick definitely is to game the non-recyclable waste. I keep telling myself that, after this house renovation is complete, I'll become a responsible recycler again. But what's the point if the goal posts keep moving?

No wonder the sign at my local tip showing the % of waste recycled has changed from the 90% to the low 70s....
If it's only a small carrier bag why take it to the dump?
Don't question the motives of OAPs. They're a bloody menace... so many of them come almost *every day* with just one tiny thing, then stop for a chat with the staff as well, causing further congestion.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who goes to the tip more than once a year is a weirdo.

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who goes to the tip more than once a year is a weirdo.
Lol, my dad loved going to the tip, he did it almost on a weekly basis; or at least it seemed weekly.

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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herewego said:
OMITN said:
V8mate said:
No recycling centres have an issue with low level DIY: painting, decorating, a bit of carpet or wood flooring etc.
Less and less IME.

FIL took a small carrier bag of broken tiles to the dump. "That's £3 sir". Hardly a full bathroom refurb..!

My local place is OK, but has now blocked off the containers where you could put any sort of hardcore/plasterboard/ceramics. You can only access it with a permit.

The trick definitely is to game the non-recyclable waste. I keep telling myself that, after this house renovation is complete, I'll become a responsible recycler again. But what's the point if the goal posts keep moving?

No wonder the sign at my local tip showing the % of waste recycled has changed from the 90% to the low 70s....
If it's only a small carrier bag why take it to the dump?
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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B'stard Child said:
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items
They can't charge for that.

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items
They can't charge for that.
Seems as long as I don’t take it in a signwritten van you are right

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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B'stard Child said:
V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items
They can't charge for that.
Seems as long as I don’t take it in a signwritten van you are right
Or turn up at 4.30 every day with a car load of the stuff

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items
They can't charge for that.
Seems as long as I don’t take it in a signwritten van you are right
Or turn up at 4.30 every day with a car load of the stuff
It will be several trips..... the SLK doesn’t have a huge boot

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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B'stard Child said:
V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
V8mate said:
B'stard Child said:
Exactly - that would go into my household waste bin. Just had two rooms re-carpeted with underlay - looking forward to seeing what the local place try and charge for getting rid as it’s not on the list of specified chargable items
They can't charge for that.
Seems as long as I don’t take it in a signwritten van you are right
Or turn up at 4.30 every day with a car load of the stuff
It will be several trips..... the SLK doesn’t have a huge boot
Roof off; stack it in the passenger seat and out onto the rear deck. Easily done in one trip biggrin

rambo19

2,740 posts

137 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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My mate works at the tip.
Brings home more than gets dumped!
(i'd be the same.)

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
That's such a brilliant idea he'd better be careful his foot doesn't fall off.

[/Blackadder]
Or cut his hand off, or the mains flex!

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
Roof off; stack it in the passenger seat and out onto the rear deck. Easily done in one trip biggrin
Hessian backed carpet - nasty on leather so that option is out

Not that I haven't moved long loads before with it biggrin



Bloody 7 series doesn't have fold down rear seats or even a ski hatch such a useless load carrier

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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V8mate said:
Don't question the motives of OAPs. They're a bloody menace... so many of them come almost *every day* with just one tiny thing, then stop for a chat with the staff as well, causing further congestion.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who goes to the tip more than once a year is a weirdo.
There are knobbers on here that have "tip runs" as requirements of any car they buy. My car almost bends the needle on the partical-o-meter, but I never gave going to the tip a moments thought when I bought it.

Back on topic, it's no wonder the country is covered in fly tipped rubbish.


hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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B'stard Child said:
Bloody 7 series doesn't have fold down rear seats or even a ski hatch such a useless load carrier
BMW charge extra for folding I think, hence rare.

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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hyphen said:
BMW charge extra for folding I think, hence rare.
Yeah, same for the 3 series Saloon. Where the Coupe and Compact get them thrown in.

- Hence I have a coupe as you can get the dog or a pair of mountain bikes in, where you cant in the saloon.


Daniel

m3jappa

6,425 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Our local tip has got silly as well. No vans of any type no matter what waste or how much. I took down some empty children toy boxes and some stuff like an old hoover, old jet wash and was refused entry.

I went home, put it in my tvr boot and drove down with the boot open hehe they couldn't believe it but couldn't refuse as it was in a car.


Thing i don't get is why the fk don't the councils start recycling properly and on a proper scale.

Im in the building trade and the old saying 'theres money in muck' is very true.

Hardcore goes on to be crushed and sold as various grades of crushed concrete, from crusher run to proper clean ticketed type 1.

Mud (well soil they claim) is screened into topsoil

Metals have obvious value.

Plastics are recycled along with glass. Im not sure what happens to timber? id imagine its either burnt or recycled (probably not legally burnt).

Garden waste is made into composts.

Stuff like plasterboard, oil, asbestos etc I'm not sure what happens to.

What i want to know is why don't the tips take commercial waste, charge the same as everyone else does and make proper money out of it? Or is the proper money i see people making too small for the gravy waste council train?

Even tipping for free, theres money to be made in most of it.

V8RX7

26,862 posts

263 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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m3jappa said:
Our local tip has got silly as well. No vans of any type no matter what waste or how much. I took down some empty children toy boxes and some stuff like an old hoover, old jet wash and was refused entry.

I went home, put it in my tvr boot and drove down with the boot open hehe

Thing i don't get is why the fk don't the councils start recycling properly and on a proper scale.

What i want to know is why don't the tips take commercial waste, charge the same as everyone else does and make proper money out of it?

Even tipping for free, theres money to be made in most of it.
There isn't the way the Council run things.

Our Tip is on a site of at least 1Ac and has at least 5 men (generally doing nothing) staffing it

Add in the cost of Landfill and I suspect it costs them in excess of £1M / yr to run


V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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m3jappa said:
Thing i don't get is why the fk don't the councils start recycling properly and on a proper scale.

Im in the building trade and the old saying 'theres money in muck' is very true.

Hardcore goes on to be crushed and sold as various grades of crushed concrete, from crusher run to proper clean ticketed type 1.

Mud (well soil they claim) is screened into topsoil

Metals have obvious value.

Plastics are recycled along with glass. Im not sure what happens to timber? id imagine its either burnt or recycled (probably not legally burnt).

Garden waste is made into composts.

Stuff like plasterboard, oil, asbestos etc I'm not sure what happens to.

What i want to know is why don't the tips take commercial waste, charge the same as everyone else does and make proper money out of it? Or is the proper money i see people making too small for the gravy waste council train?

Even tipping for free, theres money to be made in most of it.
I don't know where you live or how effectively your council operates the sites you use, but whilst I can understand why you'd have the views you do, there are 'invisible' costs killing the value in most materials. Primarily the cost of moving the waste to a place of treatment or reprocessing, which is horrendous.

Non-ferrous metals are the most lucrative material, but not much else derives an income exceeding its haulage cost at the point of delivery. So operations end up all cost by quite a margin.

Some recycling centres do take business waste. The main reason for avoiding it is the impact it has on the service provided to residents - by law, recycling centres exist for the benefit of residents, not businesses. Sites are often small and lack decent queuing, weighing and charging infrastructure for business users, without disrupting the flow for householders.



GR_TVR

714 posts

84 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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hyphen said:
B'stard Child said:
Bloody 7 series doesn't have fold down rear seats or even a ski hatch such a useless load carrier
BMW charge extra for folding I think, hence rare.
I don't think it's even an option on the new 7 series.
(If it is - someone let me know as I'd discounted it as an option because of this!)