'Recyling centres' aka tips

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WindyCommon

3,372 posts

239 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Fundamental misunderstanding. What used to be "the tip" where you could take your rubbish is now an outsourced facility of Biffa PLC. It has been changed from a service into a profit centre. You are free to bring as much sorted/cleaned/dried valuable recycling input material as you like. If you object to working for Biffa PLC as an unpaid sorter, and have "rubbish" that needs to be thrown away, then I'm afraid you are out of luck.

There's a wonderful alliance of mis-directed forces at work here. At the centre of it all are local councils cutting costs to the bone in order to protect their ability to make pension contributions whilst disguising their actions as driven by environmental concerns.

dickymint

24,313 posts

258 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Here we can take almost anything. The only blanket ban are tyres for some reason.

http://www.monmouthshire.gov.uk/app/uploads/2018/0...

Lately a free permit scheme has been introduced for residents with Transits and the like.........

"If you have a commercial type vehicle as your only vehicle and it is not used for business purposes, you can apply for a permit to allow the disposal of domestic waste only.

To apply for a permit you need to email a copy of the logbook and insurance certificate showing that the vehicle is insured for private and domestic use only........"

Open 7 days a week and Staff always there to give a hand.

RizzoTheRat

25,155 posts

192 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Just checked my local tips website and apparently Baths are ok, but they'll charge for Toilets and Sinks at £2.50 per item or per rubble bag. confused

they will take garden waste though and their list of stuff they won't take doesn't look unreasonable though. I believe there's usually one or two per area that will take Asbestos, mine's bloody miles away but luckily when I needed to get rid of some my then girlfriend was living just over the county border and her local one did take it.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Friday 20th April 08:45


Edited by RizzoTheRat on Friday 20th April 08:46

CAPP0

19,581 posts

203 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
CAPP0 said:
I believe this is the case.

Would anyone know the best way to cut tyres up, simply so that it's easier to transport them to the correct disposal facility?
I've heard an angle grinder with a cutting disc works reasonably well, but it does generate quite a bit of smoke and stinks. So I've heard.
Tried that, gets there eventually but the disc does tend to dig in to the rubber.

dickymint

24,313 posts

258 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Mr2Mike said:
CAPP0 said:
I believe this is the case.

Would anyone know the best way to cut tyres up, simply so that it's easier to transport them to the correct disposal facility?
I've heard an angle grinder with a cutting disc works reasonably well, but it does generate quite a bit of smoke and stinks. So I've heard.
Tried that, gets there eventually but the disc does tend to dig in to the rubber.
Easy........................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeXcLl6tl3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprDjAhl9Oc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgvx7VzmUYo


Edited by dickymint on Friday 20th April 08:57

Gary29

4,154 posts

99 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Two words: Tip, Fly

bakerstreet

4,763 posts

165 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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I hate going to the tip with a passion. Every time I do it, I say I'm going to rent a skip.

Its full of people who take things to the tip, that could actually go in their recycling.

I once removed a few large public p[avement type paving slaps. Very big and incredibly heavy. so I made two trips with them in the back on my golf. I was told I wasn't allowed to come back again. It was literally three or four paving slabs.

I have also been told that you can only dump two kitchen cabinets at a time only to see someone two cars down unloading considerably more.

The van ticket that any van is meant to have seems to be a bit hit and miss. Depends if you are a mate of one of tip people.

I've seen back handers for taking stuff off the piles. That annoyed me a lot.

Its generally just a hateful way to spend my time. However, one of the downside of have a Discovery 3, is you can fit a lot of stuff in there and you treat it like a van, so when I do go to the tip, I have a lot of stuff, but unlike others, I do make an effort to put everything in the right bin.

We are about to start a new kitchen and that will inevitably mean several trips to tip....or do I just stick to my word and rent a skip, which is £200 frown

Our local top doesn't charge yet, but I recon it will be very different in five years time. My In Laws have to pay to get in their tip and a friend of mine has to pay a few quid for any rubble or hardcore that he dumps at the tip. So far neither of things are happening at my local place, but I think its only a matter of time.




Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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I've been cutting up tyres with a circular saw until I managed to burn out the motor.

Cut them in half to put into a wheelie bin.

I'm going to try my angle grinder next ,try not to ruin it.

Comment about providing address identity is generally true for Dumps near a council border to prevent non residents

taking the easy option.

I read Surrey's leaflet on this and they actually allow some "cross border" tipping at selected sites.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,404 posts

265 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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WindyCommon said:
Fundamental misunderstanding. What used to be "the tip" where you could take your rubbish is now an outsourced facility of Biffa PLC. It has been changed from a service into a profit centre. You are free to bring as much sorted/cleaned/dried valuable recycling input material as you like. If you object to working for Biffa PLC as an unpaid sorter, and have "rubbish" that needs to be thrown away, then I'm afraid you are out of luck.

There's a wonderful alliance of mis-directed forces at work here. At the centre of it all are local councils cutting costs to the bone in order to protect their ability to make pension contributions whilst disguising their actions as driven by environmental concerns.
My thoughts exactly. When they reduced my tip's opening days from 7 days a week to 5 they managed to dress that up as some kind of environmental benefit. If true, why not close it completely!

And of course new houses are going up round here like mushrooms so the problem will only get worse.

Waste round here is run by Veolia, and I have to say that within the restrictions placed on them, they do a good job. My binman is the happiest chappie I've ever met! Britain needs more like him.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Councils have a weird way of looking at the world.

Fly tipping problem? Make it harder to legally throw stuff away.

High street failing? Put up parking charges.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Simpo Two said:
Was just checking the opening times of my local tip, and read:

'What you cannot bring to recycling centres:
Asbestos
Chemicals and other toxic substances
Clinical waste
Dead animals
DIY waste including hardcore, plasterboard, tiles, bathroom and kitchen units and doors
Fireworks, ammunition and explosives
Fuel
Gas cylinders
Hazardous waste
Japanese knotweed
Landlord's waste
Pesticides
Poisons
Trade or commercial waste'

So apart from garden waste, which I pay extra for anyway, what CAN I dispose of? When I re-did my bathroom and kitchen 10 years ago I was able to get rid of all the wreckage at the tip, no problem. That is what tips are for. Where would I get rid of it now? And then they complain that fly-tipping is on the increase!
Your site is clearly a smaller, community facility. There'll be a larger recycling centre nearby which accepts materials in the 'DIY waste including hardcore, plasterboard, tiles, bathroom and kitchen units and doors' line.

The other items in the list are either hazardous or business waste, neither of which have ever been catered for at these facilities.

HTP99

22,543 posts

140 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Pericoloso said:
I read Surrey's leaflet on this and they actually allow some "cross border" tipping at selected sites.
I'm Surrey, my local tip doesn't require proof of residence and when I had to go to another tip in the area as I'd loaded my car up, not realising that my local tip was now shut on that day, the other tip didn't require (or at least ask) for proof of residence, however I do know that other tips in Surrey do.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,404 posts

265 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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V8mate said:
Your site is clearly a smaller, community facility. There'll be a larger recycling centre nearby which accepts materials in the 'DIY waste including hardcore, plasterboard, tiles, bathroom and kitchen units and doors' line.

The other items in the list are either hazardous or business waste, neither of which have ever been catered for at these facilities.
I can understand some of the restrictions, and yes it is a small tip (though the area is getting more populated by the day). The nearest 'big' one, by the time you've got in and out, would be a 70-80 minute round trip. The one thing that hits the most is 'DIY waste'. A few months ago I went to dispose of one window, and was only just allowed in. Tomorrow I plan to visit to take the remains of my old decking, which is DIY waste. Will they take it?

samdale

2,860 posts

184 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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PurpleTurtle said:
I’ve just redone our kitchen and have a full Hippo Skip (the biggest one they do) awaiting collection at £199. Good value compared to regular skips.
Is it? I guess the convenience of booking a collection whenever you like is good but that looks a lot smaller than an 8 yard skip for the same price!

I live on my own so probably only produce 1 full binbag a fortnight. My bin is full to the brim every time whenever I've got some DIY to do wink. Must have got rid of a couple of skip loads easy like that.

the tribester

2,387 posts

86 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Anything in a black bin liner flung in the "un-recycleable" waste" bin wink
Tyres are an absolute bd to cut up and get into a bin liner apparently.
I live on the boundary of two Local Authorities, each with a recycling centre.

One charges £2.50 per tyre, the other allows 5 tyres free in any 12 months, but doesn't
ask for my name when I drop them off.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Simpo Two said:
V8mate said:
Your site is clearly a smaller, community facility. There'll be a larger recycling centre nearby which accepts materials in the 'DIY waste including hardcore, plasterboard, tiles, bathroom and kitchen units and doors' line.

The other items in the list are either hazardous or business waste, neither of which have ever been catered for at these facilities.
I can understand some of the restrictions, and yes it is a small tip (though the area is getting more populated by the day). The nearest 'big' one, by the time you've got in and out, would be a 70-80 minute round trip. The one thing that hits the most is 'DIY waste'. A few months ago I went to dispose of one window, and was only just allowed in. Tomorrow I plan to visit to take the remains of my old decking, which is DIY waste. Will they take it?
Yes, that kind of timber is accepted at all sites. It's only the specific items listed which they look out for.

55palfers

5,908 posts

164 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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...and Councils wonder why folk give the jolly nomads a few quid to get rid and then have to pay ££££££££s to clear up fly-tipping!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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dickymint said:
Cutting the sidewalls is dead easy, it's cutting the belt (with it's reinforcing steel wires) into sections that causes problems.

Zetec-S

5,872 posts

93 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Not too bad round our way (at the moment), they take anything except ammunition, medical waste, car parts, fuel and Japanese knot weed, which is pretty reasonable. There is a charge for some bulky diy waste, or soil/rubble, but so far have avoided that by mixing soil in with garden waste, and other stuff in bin liners into the non-recyclables skip wink.

Ours is a pretty basic setup, a dozen or so skips round the edge of a car park, with no ID checks to enter. But there is talk of either "modernising" or merging with the neighbouring town. Which I take to mean "make it less accessible and harder to take stuff to". Fingers crossed nothing happens.

Need to go this weekend, which I'm sure will be a PITA as the warm weather will bring people out in droves. Much nicer to go when it's pissing it down. Plus when it's raining it has the added benefit of less staff hanging around so you can get more stuff into the non-recyclables skip without being questioned hehe

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
CAPP0 said:
I believe this is the case.

Would anyone know the best way to cut tyres up, simply so that it's easier to transport them to the correct disposal facility?
I've heard an angle grinder with a cutting disc works reasonably well, but it does generate quite a bit of smoke and stinks. So I've heard.
A reciprocating saw with a good blade would be my thinking, or a jigsaw.

Edited by hyphen on Friday 20th April 12:55