£144 per hour for non emergency plumber

£144 per hour for non emergency plumber

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Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Andehh said:
[who else might be worth bringing this to?)
Local newspaper?

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Hoofy said:
Andehh said:
[who else might be worth bringing this to?)
Local newspaper?
A good shout, council? Watchdog? Action Fraud etc etc?

I would certainly be hitting both arms of their company on google reviews, facebook, and local facebook groups typing it all out factually & clearly. Maybe save that for a few more weeks though. Dont antagonise them for now.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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mangos said:
Latest update is that they have ignored my emails and have now sent me this -
Their T&C's are published online...

Edited by WinstonWolf on Wednesday 20th June 14:22

dmsims

6,518 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
Their T&C's are published online...
but no GDPR stuff ......

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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mangos said:
Should I bother responding to them or wait for the debt collector ?
Do nothing, you’ve already told them why you’re not going to pay. Debt collectors can’t do much without a Court order, it’s simply scare tactics.

Someone else suggested contacting a solicitor but that would cost money you most likely won’t get back. There really is no need.

No they can’t do anything to your credit rating without going to Court and winning.

mangos

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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bad company said:
mangos said:
Should I bother responding to them or wait for the debt collector ?
Do nothing, you’ve already told them why you’re not going to pay. Debt collectors can’t do much without a Court order, it’s simply scare tactics.

Someone else suggested contacting a solicitor but that would cost money you most likely won’t get back. There really is no need.

No they can’t do anything to your credit rating without going to Court and winning.
Thank you, this was reasurring to read.

I did all trading standards in the end.

They were very helpful and have said that everything I've mentioned is huge red flags to them and the would want to investigate them and remind them of the law and quoted a specific regulation.

They advised emailing back one last time with a summary which I have just done.

mangos

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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This was my response:

I have not received a response to my last email querying your invoice.

To summarise:

• The team spent 1.5 hours at my house to provide an estimate for a new boiler and for leak detection of which you provide free estimates.

• I never received an estimate for leak detection using any sonic listening equipment or cat and genny.

• I was informed at the beginning of the visit that IGM were unable to locate the leak during the visit as the boiler itself was leaking.
Something I made clear as the main point of the call out was because I needed a new boiler; I accepted this was the case and asked them to quote for the boiler.

• I did not hire anyone to come around and probe holes into my wall using a moisture meter.

• I had a screaming baby in my arms and felt quite vulnerable when it was made clear they were outstaying the necessary time and wanted me to sign the invoice under duress without being able to read any terms and conditions beforehand.

• No pricing structure or T&C’s were ever given verbally or in writing prior to the appointment or during the appointment.

• At no point during the appointment was it made clear that I would be charged until a bill was written up when leaving.

• I have not been provided with a copy of your terms and conditions with the boiler estimate that followed.

• You attempted to take payment from my card without my authorisation.

• Late payment fees and admin fees have been added to the invoice that is in dispute.

• I informed you in my previous email that I was out of the country with limited access to internet and no ability to make payments remotely.

• I have paid a call out fee and been reasonable and up until now I have been open to discussion / potential negotiation.

• In less than 3 weeks since IGM’s visit to my house you have passed this to a debt collector and I have therefore sought assistance from Trading Standards who have given advise in accordance with the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014.

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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mangos said:
This was my response:

I have not received a response to my last email querying your invoice.

To summarise:

• The team spent 1.5 hours at my house to provide an estimate for a new boiler and for leak detection of which you provide free estimates.

• I never received an estimate for leak detection using any sonic listening equipment or cat and genny.

• I was informed at the beginning of the visit that IGM were unable to locate the leak during the visit as the boiler itself was leaking.
Something I made clear as the main point of the call out was because I needed a new boiler; I accepted this was the case and asked them to quote for the boiler.

• I did not hire anyone to come around and probe holes into my wall using a moisture meter.

• I had a screaming baby in my arms and felt quite vulnerable when it was made clear they were outstaying the necessary time and wanted me to sign the invoice under duress without being able to read any terms and conditions beforehand.

• No pricing structure or T&C’s were ever given verbally or in writing prior to the appointment or during the appointment.

• At no point during the appointment was it made clear that I would be charged until a bill was written up when leaving.

• I have not been provided with a copy of your terms and conditions with the boiler estimate that followed.

• You attempted to take payment from my card without my authorisation.

• Late payment fees and admin fees have been added to the invoice that is in dispute.

• I informed you in my previous email that I was out of the country with limited access to internet and no ability to make payments remotely.

• I have paid a call out fee and been reasonable and up until now I have been open to discussion / potential negotiation.

• In less than 3 weeks since IGM’s visit to my house you have passed this to a debt collector and I have therefore sought assistance from Trading Standards who have given advise in accordance with the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014.
Good stuff. That gives them plenty to think about and reiterates that you’re no pushover.

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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clap

Interesting what Trading Standards had to say.

dmsims

6,518 posts

267 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Worth putting that in a Signed for letter

According to their own T&C's they are supposed to respond!

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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dmsims said:
Worth putting that in a Signed for letter

According to their own T&C's they are supposed to respond!
Have you got a link? smile

dickymint

24,332 posts

258 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Andehh said:
dmsims said:
Worth putting that in a Signed for letter

According to their own T&C's they are supposed to respond!
Have you got a link? smile
http://igm.me.uk/tc/

Edited by dickymint on Thursday 21st June 12:38


Edited by dickymint on Thursday 21st June 12:39

mangos

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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The debt collectors letter arrived today

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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mangos said:
The debt collectors letter arrived today
I would send them a copy of the letter you sent to the plumbing firm.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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mangos said:
The debt collectors letter arrived today
Can't read it.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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I will send you an invoice my for picture rotating service. The tool i use is very expensive.


mickk

28,859 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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You couldn't make it wider while you're at it please?

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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mickk said:
You couldn't make it wider while you're at it please?
Not for free.


mickk

28,859 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
mickk said:
You couldn't make it wider while you're at it please?
Not for free.
hehe

Leicester Loyal

4,545 posts

122 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Probably another dodgy debt collecting company run by a friend or a family member. How many innocent people will they have done this to over the years? Shocking.