House purchase next to a farm.

House purchase next to a farm.

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Atlas 12v

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345 posts

209 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Looked at a property that boarders a small fruit farm. Not a big place, one tenant farmer.

The site was formerly a pig farm before fruit approx 10 years as fruit.

We really like the property and are considering an offer but have concerns over the potential for the farm to return to livestock in the future.

Does anyone know if there are any planning rules regarding a change of farm type?

Love the idea of being so close to a farm, loads of space, great for kids growing up etc but resale on a place next to a fruit farm is very different to one next to a livestock farm.

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Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Perhaps the country isn't for you

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Oh I don’t know, lots of fringe benefits of living next to a pig farmer ... wink

pidsy

7,989 posts

157 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Just be glad it’s not a Ganja Farm.

Atlas 12v

Original Poster:

345 posts

209 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Cfnteabag said:
Perhaps the country isn't for you
Already live in the country just not next to a farm. But thanks for you input.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

245 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Atlas 12v said:
Love the idea of being so close to a farm, loads of space, great for kids growing up etc but resale on a place next to a fruit farm is very different to one next to a livestock farm.

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Why?

Evanivitch

20,075 posts

122 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Fruit farm now, so assuming fairly quiet most year round and then a few days of shake and rettle?

Do you think there's much scope for large industrial sheds being constructed? I wouldn't be bothered by organic/free-range/legacy farming, but the risk these days are of intensive farming sheds popping up. In themselves they aren't so bad, but lots of animals tends to mean lots of, err, waste.

Now personally I'm quite happy with the smell of fresh manure, and I'm not bothered by the smell of industrial chicken crap, but I can understand why some people aren't.

Atlas 12v

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345 posts

209 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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RedLeicester said:
Why?
Different working practices. Potoentially more veichle movement. Smells, flies, noise.

My family farm and I am not a townie tt however as my original post asks from a planning point of view does a change from fruit to any other kind of farm need to be authorised?

PugwasHDJ80

7,529 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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RedLeicester said:
Atlas 12v said:
Love the idea of being so close to a farm, loads of space, great for kids growing up etc but resale on a place next to a fruit farm is very different to one next to a livestock farm.

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Why?
Guess youo've never lived next to a pig farm!

the smell would make a lot of properties unsellable

Evanivitch

20,075 posts

122 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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PugwasHDJ80 said:
Guess youo've never lived next to a pig farm!

the smell would make a lot of properties unsellable
Intensively farmed?

Never lived by, but walked through several pig farms with no memory of the smell being an issue.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Atlas 12v said:
My family farm
Why not simply ask them then?

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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jjones said:
Why not simply ask them then?
Probably because they are farmers and not planning experts?

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Atlas 12v said:
Does anyone know if there are any planning rules regarding a change of farm type?
No, there are not, is the answer you are looking for.

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Intensive poultry units are the plague around here at present. We're house-hunting and will check on google maps and local planning portal before even considering viewing.

When you say fruit farm, I guess polytunnels rather than orchard? If it's good enough for fruit, I can't see it being turned into cattle feed lots.

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Equus said:
No, there are not, is the answer you are looking for.
If you're just putting some stock on the field, sure. But intensive units require significant fixed infrastructure that does require planning permission.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/farming/2017/1...

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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silentbrown said:
Intensive poultry units are the plague around here at present.
I could tell you the story of a farmer who spent years, deliberately (but legally) intensifying the use of some land he owned adjacent to a very nice 'executive' estate on the edge of a certain Cotswolds town.

He started with polytunnels, and by the time he had finished he had a food packing and distribution operation, plus a fish processing factory on the site.

...then he brought in a couple of thousand free-range geese and turkeys, to fatten for the Christmas market each year.

By the time he had finished, the NIMBY neighbours were begging us to build houses on the site.

Brick Top

21 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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alorotom said:
Oh I don’t know, lots of fringe benefits of living next to a pig farmer ... wink
be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm

Equus

16,883 posts

101 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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silentbrown said:
If you're just putting some stock on the field, sure. But intensive units require significant fixed infrastructure that does require planning permission.
Yes, subject to certain other rules, you're allowed to erect agricultural buildings without Planning Permission, but they need to be at least 400 metres from a neigbouring dwelling, if you're going to use them to accommodate livestock.

Doesn't help you much with free-range pigs and mobile 'arks'. Google 'Woolley Chickens', for that one.

dickymint

24,332 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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The "one tenant farm" used to be a pig farm now a growing fruit! so why the heck could it not go back to pigs? I doubt very much He didn't need change of use to switch to fruit.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th June 2018
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Atlas 12v said:
Already live in the country just not next to a farm. But thanks for you input.
Maybe you should live in the country but not next to a farm then ...

Does that qualify as being in the country if you need to have an exclusion zone around farms, though?

Sounds like you want to be in a housing estate adjoining green belt to me (“country” but without the smells, etc). If you could get an “executive house” that fitted that criteria that you could pull the trigger on, I suspect you’d be delighted rolleyes



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