Octopus energy company. Anyone use 'em?
Octopus energy company. Anyone use 'em?
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GasEngineer

1,997 posts

83 months

Wednesday 10th December 2025
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cliffords said:
The fire service just want to stay in bed all night. There is so much on during the night including people now charging EV,'s. It out of date advice.
Pretty sure that it's current advice. wink

otolith

64,542 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th December 2025
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Any plugged in appliance creates a non-zero risk of fire. A fire when you're asleep in bed is more risky than a fire when you're awake or not at home. Ergo the advice, which completely disregards that "non-zero" may in fact be "acceptably close to zero" for one's own risk tolerance.

Evanivitch

25,559 posts

143 months

Wednesday 10th December 2025
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otolith said:
Any plugged in appliance creates a non-zero risk of fire. A fire when you're asleep in bed is more risky than a fire when you're awake or not at home. Ergo the advice, which completely disregards that "non-zero" may in fact be "acceptably close to zero" for one's own risk tolerance.
Agreed. There's no balance of risk with the fire service, they don't care if it's cheaper or lower emissions, they have a single mission to o reduce risk of harm to people.

Being pragmatic, I do ensure my filter is cleaned, I do run my heat pump dryer on low-temp setting (because I don't care it takes 30 mins longer), and I did install interconnected smoke alarms

Accelebrate

5,536 posts

236 months

Wednesday 10th December 2025
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There was an amazing amount of fluff inside my 7y/o tumble dryer when I opened it up to replace a capacitor recently. I’ve always kept the filters clean.

AdamV12V

5,302 posts

198 months

Friday 19th December 2025
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Well just had my notice of tarrifs for Jan-Mar 2026. Im on Cosy Octopus variable...

All 3 rates are unchanged from current quarter.
Daily charge increases from 57.159p to 57.844p (a 1.2% increase).

Overall not too bad, I had feared worse.

From April onwards the budget reduction should kick in on top of any usual drops for the spring quarter. Octopus have promised to pass on the budget reduction in full to all customers.

RacingStripes

698 posts

51 months

Friday 19th December 2025
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Our fix ran out yesterday so weve gone back to the tracker. Its was 21.77p and the new fix is 24.74p. Tracker should be the better option. Back to the Mrs asking me every night if its cheaper today or tomorrow though.

Ardennes92

679 posts

101 months

Saturday 20th December 2025
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AdamV12V said:
Well just had my notice of tarrifs for Jan-Mar 2026. Im on Cosy Octopus variable...

All 3 rates are unchanged from current quarter.
Daily charge increases from 57.159p to 57.844p (a 1.2% increase).

Overall not too bad, I had feared worse.

From April onwards the budget reduction should kick in on top of any usual drops for the spring quarter. Octopus have promised to pass on the budget reduction in full to all customers.
I know the rates are “regional”, but talking to a relative this morning, who are also on cosy, their standing charge has gone from 68.341p to 69.026p; I assume the unit rates will also be somewhat different to compensate.

AdamV12V

5,302 posts

198 months

Saturday 20th December 2025
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Ardennes92 said:
AdamV12V said:
Well just had my notice of tarrifs for Jan-Mar 2026. Im on Cosy Octopus variable...

All 3 rates are unchanged from current quarter.
Daily charge increases from 57.159p to 57.844p (a 1.2% increase).

Overall not too bad, I had feared worse.

From April onwards the budget reduction should kick in on top of any usual drops for the spring quarter. Octopus have promised to pass on the budget reduction in full to all customers.
I know the rates are regional , but talking to a relative this morning, who are also on cosy, their standing charge has gone from 68.341p to 69.026p; I assume the unit rates will also be somewhat different to compensate.
Yes they are regional, but I'm happy to share what mine currently (and next quarter too) are for West Yorkshire:
Low : 13.965 p/kwh
Mid : 28.477 p/kwh
Peak : 42.716 p/kwh

With our sigengergy battery, solar and dual ASHP's we have over the last year achieved:
Low: 97.4%
Mid: 2.46%
Peak 0.14%

Phooey

13,414 posts

190 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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I've just switched our fixed Octopus tariff to tracker. How do you know what price you are currently paying - can you view it on the app?

Mikey G

4,848 posts

261 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Phooey said:
I've just switched our fixed Octopus tariff to tracker. How do you know what price you are currently paying - can you view it on the app?
You can view it on the app but also apps and pages such as https://gastracker.uk/ are handy as it shows tomorrows price too.

Phooey

13,414 posts

190 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Mikey G said:
You can view it on the app but also apps and pages such as https://gastracker.uk/ are handy as it shows tomorrows price too.
Thanks. Looks like 4.84p gas and 24.09 elec..

Mikey G

4,848 posts

261 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Phooey said:
Thanks. Looks like 4.84p gas and 24.09 elec..
Make sure you select your tracker version and area as it varies.

Mines currently 5.18p and 25.12p respectively in South Wales.

Phooey

13,414 posts

190 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Mikey G said:
Make sure you select your tracker version and area as it varies.

Mines currently 5.18p and 25.12p respectively in South Wales.
Mines September 2025 v1 East Midlands

ben5575

7,198 posts

242 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Something random that may or may not be of interest.

My meter hasn't been sending data to Octopus for around 18months so by default I was switched from Intelligent Octopus Go to their standard tariff.

Long (6 month!) story short but when recalculated and with 2no. EVs, the difference between the two tariffs was only £240 over the 18 months which surprised me a lot.

And this is obviously before they cap IOG off peak to 6 hours at the end of January.

But if the saving is only £20/m then that's almost worth paying for the faff of IOG. And it is a faff with our 2 EVs and reasonably high mileage.

Edited by ben5575 on Friday 26th December 15:04

Road2Ruin

6,148 posts

237 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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ben5575 said:
Something random that may or may not be of interest.

My meter hasn't been sending data to Octopus for around 18months so by default I was switched from Intelligent Octopus Go to their standard tariff.

Long (6 month!) story short but when recalculated and with 2no. EVs, the difference between the two tariffs was only £240 over the 18 months which surprised me a lot.

And this is obviously before they cap IOG off peak to 6 hours at the end of January.

But if the saving is only £20/m then that's almost worth paying for the faff of IOG. And it is a faff with our 2 EVs and reasonably high mileage.

Edited by ben5575 on Friday 26th December 15:04
That's 6 hours per day, every day. It's trying to make people put their EVs on charge everyday, rather than wait until they are low and stick it on. You also get 6 hours between 23.30 - 05.30, that the house can use regardless of when the EV charges. Just load your usage during those hours or get a house battery and charge that at night.

okgo

41,291 posts

219 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Phooey said:
Mines September 2025 v1 East Midlands
Same (but London) - got the Octopus Home mini installed when they put my new smart meter in. Loving it.

It’s crazy how much cheaper it all seems to be now, I have a brand new boiler admittedly but I have a gas Aga always on and have been heating the house to 20c and I’m not breaching £10-12 a day with elec included.

I remember in 2023 on Xmas day ever had a slightly smaller house, no Aga, and I was at about £24 spend for Christmas Day!

Maybe the unit prices are far better now vs how they were back then.

ben5575

7,198 posts

242 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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Road2Ruin said:
That's 6 hours per day, every day. It's trying to make people put their EVs on charge everyday, rather than wait until they are low and stick it on. You also get 6 hours between 23.30 - 05.30, that the house can use regardless of when the EV charges. Just load your usage during those hours or get a house battery and charge that at night.
Yes I know how it works thanks. And if you have a Tesla and drive 10k per year that's great.

I'm just pointing out that with 2 EV's and 15k each per year, the savings were significantly smaller between IOG and their bog standard Flexible tariff than I (at least) thought they would be.

For £13/m more I could simply charge whichever car I wanted, when I wanted and wouldn't have the faff of which car gets plugged in what night depending on what journeys are being done by whom and when.

As I said at the start it was an observation that in my real world use case, the savings are minimal. That surprised me and it may be of interest to others on here.

That said, the £30/m for one car (plus IOG) if and when they reintroduce it would work well for me.

Road2Ruin

6,148 posts

237 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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ben5575 said:
Road2Ruin said:
That's 6 hours per day, every day. It's trying to make people put their EVs on charge everyday, rather than wait until they are low and stick it on. You also get 6 hours between 23.30 - 05.30, that the house can use regardless of when the EV charges. Just load your usage during those hours or get a house battery and charge that at night.
Yes I know how it works thanks. And if you have a Tesla and drive 10k per year that's great.

I'm just pointing out that with 2 EV's and 15k each per year, the savings were significantly smaller between IOG and their bog standard Flexible tariff than I (at least) thought they would be.

For £13/m more I could simply charge whichever car I wanted, when I wanted and wouldn't have the faff of which car gets plugged in what night depending on what journeys are being done by whom and when.

As I said at the start it was an observation that in my real world use case, the savings are minimal. That surprised me and it may be of interest to others on here.

That said, the £30/m for one car (plus IOG) if and when they reintroduce it would work well for me.
Not sure how it worked out such a little difference?
30,000 per annum / 4 miles per kwh (possibly less) x by the difference per kwh @ .17p / 12 months = £106.25. If you get less than 4miles per kwh and do washing etc at night, then the savings would be greater. You must be doing a lot of charging at peak rate.

Evanivitch

25,559 posts

143 months

Friday 26th December 2025
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ben5575 said:
Yes I know how it works thanks. And if you have a Tesla and drive 10k per year that's great.

I'm just pointing out that with 2 EV's and 15k each per year, the savings were significantly smaller between IOG and their bog standard Flexible tariff than I (at least) thought they would be.

For £13/m more I could simply charge whichever car I wanted, when I wanted and wouldn't have the faff of which car gets plugged in what night depending on what journeys are being done by whom and when.

As I said at the start it was an observation that in my real world use case, the savings are minimal. That surprised me and it may be of interest to others on here.

That said, the £30/m for one car (plus IOG) if and when they reintroduce it would work well for me.
So we do near 25,000 miles electric across two cars.

At 3m/kWh (lots of short school runs and an inefficient stellantis van) that's 8,333 kWh @ 7.5p = £625.

The cheapest fixed rates are what, 22p? So that's £1,833 charging.

I don't know the specifics, but 10p SC and 10kWh at 6p/kWh delta (is it that big for daytime rate?) per day is £36.50 plus £219.

So for me that's about £70 difference a month, no?

onetwothreefour

128 posts

57 months

Sunday 28th December 2025
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Octopus not quite as cheap as they used to be? - I'm just coming to the end of a 1yr fix for gas and elec (basic fixed tariff, no time-of-day variation, not intelligent, etc.). We don't have an EV or batteries, but a small PV solar array. EON are now catching octopus on the SEG (13p for EON customers vs. 15p for Octopus) and their fixed tariffs are cheaper. Is the shine starting to come off octopus or am I just the sort of customer they're not really interested in? (South coast)