Tools you wish you'd bought sooner...

Tools you wish you'd bought sooner...

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Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Slow said:
Not a Range Rover is it? Try a mercedes sprinter bottle jack as thats the go to upgrade due to the air suspension making it needed to be jacked into space.
What? You need a jack to jack up the jack? If that's an 'upgrade' what is happening to the world?!
People dont trust these ones with almost 3 ton of car on them basically.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Slow said:
People dont trust these ones with almost 3 ton of car on them basically.

Don’t forget lifting a corner to change a wheel is rarely more than 400kg.

Carbon Sasquatch

4,635 posts

64 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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It doesn't matter - the Range Rover scissor jack is notoriously 'chocolate' - use it at your peril. Even on firm & level ground it has been known to fold,

It really is an embarrassment that they still fit them. I guess they are assuming that very few owners actually change their own wheels.

bennno

11,614 posts

269 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Slow said:
Simpo Two said:
Slow said:
Not a Range Rover is it? Try a mercedes sprinter bottle jack as thats the go to upgrade due to the air suspension making it needed to be jacked into space.
What? You need a jack to jack up the jack? If that's an 'upgrade' what is happening to the world?!
People dont trust these ones with almost 3 ton of car on them basically.

To put 3 tons on it you'd need to lift all 4 wheels clear of the ground??

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I need a multi tool - a Makita 18v one.
Is the DTM52 the right one?

Mars

8,701 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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V6 Pushfit said:
Slow said:
People dont trust these ones with almost 3 ton of car on them basically.

Don’t forget lifting a corner to change a wheel is rarely more than 400kg.
I broke my original wind-up jack. I used my massive DeWalt impact wrench to wind it up and stripped all the thread off the bar.

On reflection it is obvious it was never going to work but hey ho... You live and learn.

But even before that, using it on such a massive car always looked scary. Not necessarily because of whether its capacity was marginal but because it always looked at though it would tip over.

For about 25 quid I might just buy another anyway. Always useful to have even if I will take my (on order) alloy trolley jack with me when touring.

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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bennno said:
Slow said:
Simpo Two said:
Slow said:
Not a Range Rover is it? Try a mercedes sprinter bottle jack as thats the go to upgrade due to the air suspension making it needed to be jacked into space.
What? You need a jack to jack up the jack? If that's an 'upgrade' what is happening to the world?!
People dont trust these ones with almost 3 ton of car on them basically.

To put 3 tons on it you'd need to lift all 4 wheels clear of the ground??
Well yes you arent lifting the entire weight but your taking 2 almost 3 wheels off the ground with these to change a wheel!

dickymint

24,269 posts

258 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:
I need a multi tool - a Makita 18v one.
Is the DTM52 the right one?
If you 'really' need one get the cheapest you can find ..... just my humble opinion wink

Thread here........ https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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dickymint said:
Arnold Cunningham said:
I need a multi tool - a Makita 18v one.
Is the DTM52 the right one?
If you 'really' need one get the cheapest you can find ..... just my humble opinion wink

Thread here........ https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Get one that you are already in the battery eco system for tongue out

blueST

4,391 posts

216 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I just bought one of these Milwaukee 12v impact wrenches. It was briefly at £79 last week so seemed like too good a deal to pass up. I already had the batteries for other stuff so good to go. It didn't occur to me that I didn't have any 3/8 impact sockets so will need to get a set. Whether I wish I'd bought it sooner, time will tell.

https://www.powertoolmate.co.uk/milwaukee-m12fiw38...

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Slow said:
Get one that you are already in the battery eco system for tongue out
Yeah. I am Makita 18V.
It’s a real need, I have a specific plug cut use case.
Just a choice of which one. 50, 51 or 52

David A

3,606 posts

251 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:
Slow said:
Get one that you are already in the battery eco system for tongue out
Yeah. I am Makita 18V.
It’s a real need, I have a specific plug cut use case.
Just a choice of which one. 50, 51 or 52
If the 52 is the top end one then it’s the same one I’ve got. Ice and quiet and powerful. Worth it I think.

Note I don’t think it takes the horseshoe type bits just varieties of star lock.

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Thanks. Ordered a 52 then. It takes the starlock tools, which seem easy to get.

I have a specific need that I think this tool will do - I am putting some joists in the ceiling as a reinforcement of the existing ones that are too small.
However, where the house was built with plaster & lathe - the lathe overlaps the top of the walls. So I want to use the plunge cutter tool to cut areas of the plaster lathe out to expose brick and use this as a basis to support the additional joists that are going in. The joys of a 110 year old house. Still, at least it's not 200 years old.

I seem to have found myself doing quite a bit of woodwork lately - my mate who does all this work for us seems to be having a bit of a mid life crisis.
Because he's a mate, I won't get annoyed at him - but the work still needs doing.


Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Monday 27th June 08:13

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I've been pondering the need for a mitre saw for years - and as far as I can see, the PH mitre saw threads are fairly old compared to currently available products - or not looking at products I'm interested in (smaller blade size).

I only want to buy one and I'd like to be able to cut a decent size - so I am thinking a 12" blade, sliding jobbie.
Something like this perhaps, but I can't find any stock : https://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-emis305s-305mm-...

I can't find anything close to that for the same money spec wise - but this looks like the "next" upwards option I can find :
https://workshopping.co.uk/woodworking/woodworking...

Is anyone able to recommend any other options that are < than the draper job but still good quality, or bettter than that draper job for the same money. Thank you.

Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Monday 27th June 11:53

akirk

5,385 posts

114 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:
I've been pondering the need for a Mitra saw for years - and as far as I can see, the PH mitre saw threads are fairly old compared to currently available products - or not looking at products I'm interested in (smaller blade size).

I only want to buy one and I'd like to be able to cut a decent size - so I am thinking a 12" blade, sliding jobbie.
Something like this perhaps, but I can't find any stock : https://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-emis305s-305mm-...

I can't find anything close to that for the same money spec wise - but this looks like the "next" upwards option I can find :
https://workshopping.co.uk/woodworking/woodworking...

Is anyone able to recommend any other options that are < than the draper job but still good quality, or bettter than that draper job for the same money. Thank you.

Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Monday 27th June 09:59
What will you use it for?
12inch is a big blade (they come in 8 / 10 / 12) so you are on the bigger size, but you are looking at a cheapish budget for that which means less choice...

I have this one:https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gcm-8-sjl-216mm-electric-single-bevel-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-240v/18086
Which is superb - rock solid, very accurate, can tilt either way, but is only a c. 8 inch blade - still has a cross cut of c. 300mm and can cut through up to 70mm in depth. (good price on the screwfix website)

I have a woodworking workshop, (hobby but in there a lot), so this is being used most days, and in several years, zero issues. It is also light enough to move around if you wish. I have had no issues with depth or reach of cut - but I have other tools like bandsaws for more depth, or track saws if cutting more then 300mm, so it is a balance for me of price / size (not too big for the workshop) and capacity v. other tools.

If you really need that reach / depth / blade size, then you are perhaps a bit more limited for your budget than I would want...
If on the other hand you are looking at 12" blades simply because you might as well buy the biggest, then it is worth considering if that is really needed.

You also need to think about what you will sit it on - I have mine on a specific bench trolley thing designed for it and which gives extendable supports each end which are critical (the saw gets used most often for cutting lengths to size).

just some random thoughts!

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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akirk said:
Arnold Cunningham said:
I've been pondering the need for a Mitra saw for years - and as far as I can see, the PH mitre saw threads are fairly old compared to currently available products - or not looking at products I'm interested in (smaller blade size).

I only want to buy one and I'd like to be able to cut a decent size - so I am thinking a 12" blade, sliding jobbie.
Something like this perhaps, but I can't find any stock : https://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-emis305s-305mm-...

I can't find anything close to that for the same money spec wise - but this looks like the "next" upwards option I can find :
https://workshopping.co.uk/woodworking/woodworking...

Is anyone able to recommend any other options that are < than the draper job but still good quality, or bettter than that draper job for the same money. Thank you.

Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Monday 27th June 09:59
What will you use it for?
12inch is a big blade (they come in 8 / 10 / 12) so you are on the bigger size, but you are looking at a cheapish budget for that which means less choice...

I have this one:https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gcm-8-sjl-216mm-electric-single-bevel-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-240v/18086
Which is superb - rock solid, very accurate, can tilt either way, but is only a c. 8 inch blade - still has a cross cut of c. 300mm and can cut through up to 70mm in depth. (good price on the screwfix website)

I have a woodworking workshop, (hobby but in there a lot), so this is being used most days, and in several years, zero issues. It is also light enough to move around if you wish. I have had no issues with depth or reach of cut - but I have other tools like bandsaws for more depth, or track saws if cutting more then 300mm, so it is a balance for me of price / size (not too big for the workshop) and capacity v. other tools.

If you really need that reach / depth / blade size, then you are perhaps a bit more limited for your budget than I would want...
If on the other hand you are looking at 12" blades simply because you might as well buy the biggest, then it is worth considering if that is really needed.

You also need to think about what you will sit it on - I have mine on a specific bench trolley thing designed for it and which gives extendable supports each end which are critical (the saw gets used most often for cutting lengths to size).

just some random thoughts!
I have a 217mm sliding compound miter saw and there's not much I find it wanting, mines DeWalt as that was the chippies go-to when I bought it 12 years ago as despite being essentially DIY/house Reno it's a tool you notice the difference of a pro vs. budget tool, so as per above I'd go quality over size.

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Thanks both.

Interesting - I was looking at that draper since they have a 100mm cut depth - so this means I could cut a 4" piece with an angle in both planes.
But you guys are saying that's rarely required?

On that above Bosch - is single bevel not a bit of a limitation?



Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Monday 27th June 12:21

akirk

5,385 posts

114 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Arnold Cunningham said:
Thanks both.

Interesting - I was looking at that draper since they have a 100mm cut depth - so this means I could cut a 4" piece with an angle in both planes.
But you guys are saying that's rarely required?
I think that simply depends on why you need it!
For my uses, not required - and I have a bandsaw with bigger capacity, so if the mitre saw is not up to it I can simply push it through the bandsaw...

if you have a known need, then get one which matches that need, if you are going to generally use it for household stuff, then I have used mine to build compost bins / planters / raised beds / etc. with zero issue - if I want to do more than 70mm I can always turn a piece over giving bigger capacity - or use the bandsaw / some other saw

but you will never regret buying good quality

Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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akirk said:
but you will never regret buying good quality
I am with you. I am the bloke with a thousand pound british made mig welder just for hobby use. I fully expect it to be the last mig welder I ever own smile
That Bosch one is looking like all good round option. Thank you for the recommendation.



Arnold Cunningham

3,765 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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And ordered... that bosch one from screwfix. smile

Could have saved a tenner by shopping around online, but I like the convenience in case there's an issue, of having a shop I could take it back to.