Is this common practice when doing lead flashing?

Is this common practice when doing lead flashing?

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Thatch

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585 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Neighbour has had a new roof fitted, and the roofers have decided to simply grind a sloping groove in my extension wall to fit the lead flashing rather than do stepped flashing.

Is this normal practice?

The roof is a very shallow slope, but I was still expecting a stepped approach.

Doesn't it reduce the water resistance of the brick work?


Blakeatron

2,514 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Quite common to angle cut - but that is terribly done!

_4ndy_

41 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Is that "finished" or are they coming back to mortar it in?

skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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They did that on my house, I filled with appropriate silicon as it looked like a bodge. However mine was neater than that and not so much of a gap.

ETA - they did mortar it in, but most of it fell out when the sun came out.

dhutch

14,310 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Seen it all to often. Especially great on semi temporary installations such as a conservatory.....


Daniel

Lotobear

6,275 posts

128 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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on the limited view shown that has all the hallmarks of a bodge - any photos showing the flashing/roof abutment length and roof coverings?

p1stonhead

25,516 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Shocking job. But surely not finished? Needs lead mastic for one, but the cut is abysmal.

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 23 October 12:49

skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Also wondering where all the rotten wood is coming from?

hornmeister

809 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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If that's not finished, driving rain onto that wall will be forced into the groove. At best with freezing weather it'll crack apart the mortar at worst it'll let damp in.

I'd have a word with the neighbour outlining your concerns. Depending on how receptive they are will decide how to take it next.

Grandad Gaz

5,090 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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How wide is that lead? It looks huge!

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Yes it is common practice. It's the lesser of the three types, cheap n fast.
It's situation dependant.

Thatch

Original Poster:

585 posts

240 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Thanks all for your responses.

In answer to some specific questions:
- it's not finished, they are coming back, but are waiting for me to replace my rotten fascia before they finish their work (not sure why it is dependent).
- they never contacted me to come to 'agreement' or for permission to grind the brickwork.

Some more photos to but the work into perspective:
Context - my flat roof, next doors tiled extension, joint thatched roof:


Rotten (possibly wood worm) fascia that i need to replace:


They are also suggesting that I need to get some sort of lip fitted to the edge of my roof, otherwise water will flow onto my neighbours roof and cause it to fail again!

Would 'stepped' method to attach the flashing, have been better for me? i.e. is there a chance that this will cause damp to enter my wall?

p1stonhead

25,516 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Thatch said:
Thanks all for your responses.

In answer to some specific questions:
- it's not finished, they are coming back, but are waiting for me to replace my rotten fascia before they finish their work (not sure why it is dependent).
- they never contacted me to come to 'agreement' or for permission to grind the brickwork.

Some more photos to but the work into perspective:
Context - my flat roof, next doors tiled extension, joint thatched roof:


Rotten (possibly wood worm) fascia that i need to replace:


They are also suggesting that I need to get some sort of lip fitted to the edge of my roof, otherwise water will flow onto my neighbours roof and cause it to fail again!

Would 'stepped' method to attach the flashing, have been better for me? i.e. is there a chance that this will cause damp to enter my wall?
Jesus christ.rofl

All laughing aside, i assume they are planning on coming back but they didnt exactly 'try' did they.

dhutch

14,310 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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New roof on an existing extension?

paulwirral

3,124 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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You really need to get your heads together with the guys doing the work on your neighbours house .
You should strip off your drip edge and rotten fascia , they should fix their lead flashing to your wall , stepped would be neater , where they can then put your fascia over the remaining lead flashing and then replace your drip edge , preferably with a small upstand on your side to check the drainage on your side and divert it to the front of your flat roof .
I'm assuming they will be dressing the lead into the profile of the tiles .
I'll be honest , the standard of workmanship on the tiled side is poor . You'd be better off speaking to your neighbour and chasing them and get someone decent to finish the job and split the cost accordingly, I know you'll probably disagree with paying anything but it's the only way you'll get a decent finished job .

Lotobear

6,275 posts

128 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Given the shallow pitch, and resultant small upstand, by far the better way would have been to lead hang the stone triangle/upstand for the full length of the roof and introduce a series of 1.5mm length soakers, bossed over the pantiles and tucked under the lead hanging.

PS: his pantile roof looks too shallow, even for interlocking tiles

Ashtray83

571 posts

168 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Bloody hell thats a lash up
Should have soakers under the tiles that dress up the wall followed by a cover flashing cut into the wall dressed down over the soakers
like so

paulwirral

3,124 posts

135 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Only flat tiles or slates use the soaker and cover flashing , thats why I said about dressing the lead into the profile of the tile . The lead should be dressed tight to the tile over at least one profile .

Lotobear

6,275 posts

128 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Ditto

Little Lofty

3,287 posts

151 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Poor job, and I agree the pitch looks too low for those tiles.