My Renovation

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Coley88

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2,946 posts

191 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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We’re due to purchase this house shortly.

Its very old fashioned and needs renovating.

We have £70k to remodel.

If anyone has any ideas, I’d be eternally greatful.

We plan to live in it for 6 months and get professional advice. I still cannot help planning.

Side note - the garage is circa 2ft lower than the rest of the ground floor. There’s no access from the room above the garage to the house, it’s via a staircase into the utility.

We’re looking for more open plan living and happy to loose the garage as a garage.





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Edited by Coley88 on Monday 2nd September 21:10

mikeiow

5,347 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I quite like the layout as it is....& this is PH, why on earth would you want to lose the garage?!

Some decent windows if needed, fresh paint.....how’s the kitchen? Those things could eat £££s alone!

I would suggest getting a master ensuite....perhaps turn the storage space into a jack’n’jill shower room accessible from the room over the garage , with door from master bedroom to corridor which would get access from the house.....

You maybe need to tell the collective what you want to achieve: you are close to buying, you must had some ideas or desires!
We had an orangery style sunroom (9m x 4m with a 7m lantern roof) across the back of ours, makes for a great living space....the garden looks like it warrants such a space.

Edited by mikeiow on Thursday 27th December 08:47

oblio

5,407 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Personally I'd be looking to remodel the whole 'bathroom/master bedroom/storage area/large room above garage' area.

An en suite to the master is a great idea as is access to the large room above the garage, from the rest of the house. Also consider a walk in wardrobe/dressing room off the master bedroom...

Do you have kids? If so the large room above the garage could be their 'toy/play/kids stuff' room or indeed your 'Man cave' (TV, pool table, beer fridge etc). It could even be turned into a new master bedroom suite with aforementioned en suite and dressing room. That frees up the master to be a decent size bedroom for others and bedroom 4 as a small home office.

I'd keep the garage personally. Can it be subdivided so that a car can go in one bit and maybe a gym (or utility area) in the other?

Downstairs perhaps an open plan kitchen diner? If you do want to lose the garage then this could be a smaller lounge (or snug) and separate gym or utility area.

smile



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Edited by oblio on Thursday 27th December 09:11

dundarach

5,017 posts

228 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Just as an alternative...

Don't go open plan, stupid idea

Don't go bifolding anything, chavvy, nasty and st

Why bother with ensuite's pointless really, have a downstairs and upstairs, less to clean, less to worry about, we've one where a large landing used to be in the 70's would love to knock it all back out.

Keep nice big simple rooms, with doors.

Keep the separate storage area, brilliant place to go or put stuff.




Coley88

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2,946 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Thanks for the input.

I’m thinking something along the lines of the following.



But happy to hear any further or better ideas.

PositronicRay

27,004 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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To make the best of the area I'd be listening to some professionals. I've seen too many badly conceived but fashionable layouts.

6 months living before any decisions is sensible.

Coley88

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Thursday 27th December 2018
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PositronicRay said:
To make the best of the area I'd be listening to some professionals. I've seen too many badly conceived but fashionable layouts.

6 months living before any decisions is sensible.
We’ll be doing both, can’t help but try to get some ideas down.

I’d love to hear more ‘ideas’. Thanks

PAUL500

2,633 posts

246 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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The house looks too disjointed as it is, and more like two stuck together by what appears to be a large later extension.

It needs centralising, my thoughts would be make the door next to the garage the main entrance instead, and insert a much a larger door/side window combo, open up the garage area into a lower level open plan, front to rear main lounge, play round with opening out the kitchen with the dining room and leading it out into the rear garden, and form an access to upstairs via the gap between the kitchen and existing garage.

Finally as its PH plus a big house like that always need a garage for storage/ potential resale then I would look to make the existing lounge the garage.

Externally its tired and dated, so to the front at least I would be looking to harmonise it, possibly by refacing the walls and roof with a modern look across the entire front to blend it all into one.

Caerleons a lovely spot and it looks like you have a great plot to work with, just my kind of project.

Edited by PAUL500 on Thursday 27th December 10:03

ChrisNic

592 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Haven’t I seen this somewhere before in another thread?

oblio

5,407 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Coley88 said:
Thanks for the input.

I’m thinking something along the lines of the following.



But happy to hear any further or better ideas.
Would the en suite and wardrobe be into the large room over the garage which becomes the master bedroom?

smile

Coley88

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2,946 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Yes, the room above the garage would be the master with an en-suite and walk-in wardrobe.

I’m fairly happy with the design of the upstairs layout.

The ground floor is the one causing me the “headache”.

JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Looks good to me! smile

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I'd be flattening that and putting a few houses on there.

Coley88

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2,946 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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£70k won’t build a new house unfortunately

mikeiow

5,347 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Coley88 said:
£70k won’t build a new house unfortunately
Not sure it would do all the knocking through etc that you are planning, unless you are doing all the work yourself?

New quality kitchen, windows, outside painting could easily eat half of that without even starting to take walls down.....& I seriously would not plan to remove the garage. Unless it is your forever home & you really don't want one, of course!

Coley88

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Thursday 27th December 2018
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mikeiow said:
Coley88 said:
£70k won’t build a new house unfortunately
Not sure it would do all the knocking through etc that you are planning, unless you are doing all the work yourself?

New quality kitchen, windows, outside painting could easily eat half of that without even starting to take walls down.....& I seriously would not plan to remove the garage. Unless it is your forever home & you really don't want one, of course!
Whilst I agree in a way.

I don’t keep my car in the garage, all I’d use it for is a dumping ground, bikes, mower etc, a decent shed would do all of that.

I have a warehouse for work, so I don’t necessarily need lots of storage for rattan furniture during the winter.

All steel I can have supplied and cut for nothing.

Perhaps it would be easier to build an extension??

mikeiow

5,347 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Coley88 said:
Whilst I agree in a way.

I don’t keep my car in the garage, all I’d use it for is a dumping ground, bikes, mower etc, a decent shed would do all of that.

I have a warehouse for work, so I don’t necessarily need lots of storage for rattan furniture during the winter.

All steel I can have supplied and cut for nothing.

Perhaps it would be easier to build an extension??
Hey, if you don't want a garage, don't keep it!

All entirely your call, my best suggestion is to not jump in too fast - live in it a while (which I think you suggested you would), then figure out what you want smile

Is it a long-term live in jobbie? If not turning for some profit within 2-3 years, then take time to get it exactly how you want it.
I like the upstairs idea to move master over garage & get relatively easy to do en suite plus 'walk-in wardrobe'.
Budget for the plumbing - I assume the garage has zero heating at present, & perhaps not much insulation to outside. If you can raise the level and pop wet UFH that end, I doubt you would regret it.

Coley88

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191 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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mikeiow said:
Hey, if you don't want a garage, don't keep it!

All entirely your call, my best suggestion is to not jump in too fast - live in it a while (which I think you suggested you would), then figure out what you want smile

Is it a long-term live in jobbie? If not turning for some profit within 2-3 years, then take time to get it exactly how you want it.
I like the upstairs idea to move master over garage & get relatively easy to do en suite plus 'walk-in wardrobe'.
Budget for the plumbing - I assume the garage has zero heating at present, & perhaps not much insulation to outside. If you can raise the level and pop wet UFH that end, I doubt you would regret it.
On the heating....it currently has electric heaters throughout (I know), which will certainly have to go. Lucikily here’s a gas feed into the garage which was luckily installed st the time of the extension.

On the en-suite, that’s a good shout, thanks, there’s a toilet below so hopefully the plumbing won’t be too difficult for a wet room

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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A pretty palatial single-story rear extension, for me.

The house is nice as it is, and I'd expect the extra living space will pay back.

Coley88

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Thursday 27th December 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
A pretty palatial single-story rear extension, for me.

The house is nice as it is, and I'd expect the extra living space will pay back.
Thanks for the ideas guys.

Really appreciated.

No doubt we’ll have some better ideas when we’re in!