Help me object to a new care home being built next door

Help me object to a new care home being built next door

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rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Hi all,

I rarely post but love reading the threads on this part of pistonheads, so wondered if anyone had any advice about objecting to the planning application that has gone in for next door.

There is a large care home next door now but it is 99% single story so we can only see the top half of the roof from our ground floor rooms & garden. The new one is planned to be a 3 story building.

I hate being a NIMBY, but also don't like the idea of such a large building being built next door, massively overshadowing our house and garden. They will be able to see into every room in our house, both front and back from the new first floor, not to mention all our garden.

We are Bracken Lodge, 1 Harvest Close, directly to the North of it.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, any help would be much appreciated.

Richard




Below is a link to the actual application plus some pics of it to save clicking if you don't want to.


https://planningaccess.york.gov.uk/online-applicat...








































Edited by rich350z on Wednesday 16th January 22:33

thebraketester

14,209 posts

138 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Where do you get three stories from? Only 2 on the plans

Mikebentley

6,082 posts

140 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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BUPA purchased a detached house opposite me years ago and land. They built a 65 room care home in its place. Problems we have are parking mainly and intrusive lighting. They have 65 rooms and staffing to suit and only 12 spaces. Exterior lighting had to be toned down too as it’s like midday outside at midnight. Good luck but these groups have lots of legal support.

rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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thebraketester said:
Where do you get three stories from? Only 2 on the plans
If you look at the elevations there are windows on the 2nd floor. I only attached pics of the ground and first floor, the 2nd floor is predominantly in the roof.

rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Mikebentley said:
BUPA purchased a detached house opposite me years ago and land. They built a 65 room care home in its place. Problems we have are parking mainly and intrusive lighting. They have 65 rooms and staffing to suit and only 12 spaces. Exterior lighting had to be toned down too as it’s like midday outside at midnight. Good luck but these groups have lots of legal support.
Thanks for the info, i hadn't thought to count the car parking spaces. I will now.


Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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thebraketester said:
Where do you get three stories from? Only 2 on the plans
On the north elevation, yes, but it's going to mean everyone on that side peering into his house and garden.

Lemming Train

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72 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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rich350z said:
thebraketester said:
Where do you get three stories from? Only 2 on the plans
If you look at the elevations there are windows on the 2nd floor. I only attached pics of the ground and first floor, the 2nd floor is predominantly in the roof.
Yes, but those are not on the north elevation are they, so they won't affect you.

thebraketester

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138 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Only on the front elevation though if a am reading correctly..

Looks like the new building will be further away from the boundary too.

It’s a bit annoying as they could almost certainly build it all on one level but I am guessing building up is cheaper than a bigger footprint.

rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Lemming Train said:
Yes, but those are not on the north elevation are they, so they won't affect you.
Yes the 2nd floor wont over look us really, but the first floor will, a lot.

rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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thebraketester said:
Only on the front elevation though if a am reading correctly..

Looks like the new building will be further away from the boundary too.

It’s a bit annoying as they could almost certainly build it all on one level but I am guessing building up is cheaper than a bigger footprint.
Yes you are correct, and yes the new building is set back a couple of meters from the boundary, so it could be worse.

However we will be overlooked by a huge buildings (relative to our quiet village) 1st floor.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Where should it go instead out of interest?

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,003 posts

102 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I cant tell from the plans (and to be honest I have had couple of beers) but if there are any trees can you put preservation orders on them? Then at least that might provide some barrier. Good luck with this, it must be unpleasant to learn a big building might be going up next door.

Rosscow

8,747 posts

163 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Just had a very brief look at the application.

On a positive note, the new care home will have less bedrooms than the current one, so if anything traffic may be reduced slightly?

Good luck OP

rich350z

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Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Pigdoguk said:
Where should it go instead out of interest?
Next door to you?

I have no problem with the current care home next door as it's singe story, what i don't like is the possibility of being over looked and the rooms looking into our bedrooms, not to mention our garden.



rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I cant tell from the plans (and to be honest I have had couple of beers) but if there are any trees can you put preservation orders on them? Then at least that might provide some barrier. Good luck with this, it must be unpleasant to learn a big building might be going up next door.
Thanks, it was a shock when we got home this evening.

rich350z

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359 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Rosscow said:
Just had a very brief look at the application.

On a positive note, the new care home will have less bedrooms than the current one, so if anything traffic may be reduced slightly?

Good luck OP
Thank you, yes its something like 8 bedrooms smaller.

The current one has had bad reviews in the press and always seemed half empty so I assume that the new one would probably be a nicer place for the residents so will be a lot busier.


thebraketester

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138 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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The worst bit of it will be the build. Once it’s built you’ll forget about it in no time.

What do the rest of the local residence think? I mean, it won’t be far for you to move once you start loosing your marbles. wink

Edited by thebraketester on Wednesday 16th January 22:58

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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If they're oldies they won't be able to see the curtains in their own windows let alone into yours.

Hoofy

76,316 posts

282 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I don't know if this is any help but it may well be worthwhile considering the kind of people living there. If they are mainly elderly, they will just be staring up at the ceiling from their beds so you're very unlikely to have people actually stand at the window and look down into your garden as you sunbathe.

Also, having a look at gmaps, you already have neighbours who can see into your back garden.




On the other hand, if it's mainly people who are physically capable but mentally unable to look after themselves, you may see a lot of old blokes' willies.

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 16th January 23:02

rich350z

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Wednesday 16th January 2019
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thebraketester said:
The worst bit of it will be the build. Once it’s built you’ll forget about it in no time.

What do the rest of the local residence think?
Yeah hopefully i'm worrying over nothing.

We only bought this house 18 months ago to give our daughter the best start in life (good school catchments) and it's been quite a stretch financially. I'm quite confident in saying that we wouldn't have bought it if this building had already been next door.

I've only spoken to a couple of neighbors and they are of the same mind as me, that its out of keeping with our residential street.