Which kitchen appliances actually last?
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dazwalsh said:
Welshbeef said:
Parents spent a lot on renovating their kitten
https://www.subzero-wolf.co.uk/
They have Wolf standalone cookers and subzero fridge freezer plus Miele standard double oven.
I don’t think they got much change out of £35k for the ovens job coffee machine fridge freezer. But it’s stunning and will never wear out in their use.
I’d not dream of spending that much £5-7k max
35K! shttps://www.subzero-wolf.co.uk/
They have Wolf standalone cookers and subzero fridge freezer plus Miele standard double oven.
I don’t think they got much change out of £35k for the ovens job coffee machine fridge freezer. But it’s stunning and will never wear out in their use.
I’d not dream of spending that much £5-7k max
t the bed! In 2015 i bought an entire 3 bed semi with gardens for 37K.As for appliances i have been broadly happy with the bosch stuff i have.
You’ll no doubt have countless people here who have £200k kitchens alone. Horses for courses
Welshbeef said:
Parents spent a lot on renovating their kitten
New fur or recon ? 
My Siemens washing machine, Electrolux oven and Fisher and Paykel dishwasher are all 13. The washing machine's a bit noisy and the dishwasher needed a new motor @ £45 and 5 mins work.
The Miele dryer does a very good job but needed a new part @ 4 yrs in. The cost was nearly as much as my previous cheap dryer cost to buy.
I'll buy another Panasonic microwave when I need to. The defrost and auto functions are much better than any other I've had.
bogie said:
Panny microwave - seem to last forever, until you throw them out for a new model
Miele dishwasher - 7 years easy so far
Smeg fridge freezer, 12 years so far but all the plastic baskets crack and are hundreds of pounds to replace
Smeg oven - repaired every 3-4 years over 12 years so far
hotpoint washer - cheapest model, lasted 10 years for £300, bought another on offer for £250...bargain
hotpoint dryer - cheapest model, 12 years in, has had a new belt, DIY fit, still going strong
Sometimes buying the cheaper mainstream stuff for a few hundred quid pays off, if you dont need any of the fancy features. I really dont get spending £1500 on equivalent top end stuff and trying to get 10 years out of it. You could buy 4 generic models for that and may get 10 years out each with a bit of luck.
I agree, sometimes basic old tech equipment is best as there is less to go wrong with it. My cheap stuff is doing better than the more expensive stuff.Miele dishwasher - 7 years easy so far
Smeg fridge freezer, 12 years so far but all the plastic baskets crack and are hundreds of pounds to replace
Smeg oven - repaired every 3-4 years over 12 years so far
hotpoint washer - cheapest model, lasted 10 years for £300, bought another on offer for £250...bargain
hotpoint dryer - cheapest model, 12 years in, has had a new belt, DIY fit, still going strong
Sometimes buying the cheaper mainstream stuff for a few hundred quid pays off, if you dont need any of the fancy features. I really dont get spending £1500 on equivalent top end stuff and trying to get 10 years out of it. You could buy 4 generic models for that and may get 10 years out each with a bit of luck.
No problems with my very basic stainless steel Hotpoint gas cooker or Cookworks toaster or Vax cylinder bagged vacuum cleaner.
No problems and not a spec of rust yet on a 7 year old cheapo Asda microwave, but I usually leave the door open for 10-20 seconds to let the steam out. Longer if it is particularly steamy.
My only appliance that has gone wrong was a fairly expensive Russell Hobbs glass kettle whereby the spring loaded lid mechanism snapped internally. And I can only ever use a 600 spin on my Bosch washer-dryer as it vibrates too much on faster spins.
Bosch/neff/siemens group stuff isn't anywhere near as good as back in the day. Had a dishwasher last 3 years, wasn't even in high use, before needing a part that wrote it off. And the only reason I went Bosch was the thought that they're so damn common I'd get it fixed easily!
Plus Siemens manufacture all that speed camera equipment so no true petrolhead worth his salt would give them his $, if purchasing in the low to mid sector go for AEG/Electrolux group.
Plus Siemens manufacture all that speed camera equipment so no true petrolhead worth his salt would give them his $, if purchasing in the low to mid sector go for AEG/Electrolux group.
Hotpoint everything for us and after seven years nothing has broken or gone wrong. Obviously now I’ve said that the dishwasher will pack up or something but at the low-mid price point I’m happy with seven years of abuse.
Personally I’d go cheap with an expectation to replace after 5 years.
Personally I’d go cheap with an expectation to replace after 5 years.
Sticks. said:
I'll buy another Panasonic microwave when I need to. The defrost and auto functions are much better than any other I've had.
We've had them all our married life - heading for 40 years now, and at first we used to change them simply because they got tatty after a few years. The last couple we've had have been hopeless though - several DOA or failures within a few days. Last one failed multiple times during 2yr JL warranty so I complained to Panny - I'd noticed there was a new model and many people posting reviews said they'd been sent it to test by Panasonic, so I said 'can I have one to test too'? They said, yes, but no need to do a review. Good job, as it arrived so twisted one of its feet was an inch off the worktop. No problem they said, throw it away and we'll send you another. Touch wood been OK for ~6 months so far (which is good going) but the evidence of cost cutting is getting ridiculous now - even things like the mains lead being extremely short and the door not opening beyond 90 degrees.
In the stainless steel combi microwave market they seem to be pretty well the only choice.
Ebay/facebook/Gumtree. Buy from a good location, usually someone moving house and redoing the kitchen or bringing their own.
Our Dishwasher cost £30.
Our washer cost £50.
Fiver in Petrol.
Both were clean and in full working order, and have lasted 4 years without fault so far - They were both 5 years old when we bought them.. Doesn't matter as one is in a cupboard and the other is integrated.
Tumble driers are for fools. A clothes airer ( £12.99 from Home Bargains) dries a full wash in 24 hours for free.
Nobody can say what today's machines will be like - it's very competitive so it's just luck who has overdone it with the cost cutting on a fatal component and who hasn't.
The worst I had was a Zanussi Washer, it shook itself to bits after 18 months.
Our Dishwasher cost £30.
Our washer cost £50.
Fiver in Petrol.
Both were clean and in full working order, and have lasted 4 years without fault so far - They were both 5 years old when we bought them.. Doesn't matter as one is in a cupboard and the other is integrated.
Tumble driers are for fools. A clothes airer ( £12.99 from Home Bargains) dries a full wash in 24 hours for free.
Nobody can say what today's machines will be like - it's very competitive so it's just luck who has overdone it with the cost cutting on a fatal component and who hasn't.
The worst I had was a Zanussi Washer, it shook itself to bits after 18 months.
talksthetorque said:
Tumble driers are for fools. A clothes airer ( £12.99 from Home Bargains) dries a full wash in 24 hours for free.
They have their own drawbacks eg. dumping several litres of water into the air if drying inside and slowing down the washing process if you've got multiple loads (eg with kids). Tumble dryers can be very handy if you want/need something washing and drying quickly (within the hour), and they also minimise/eliminate the need for ironing as creases are avoided.We don't have one but my parents do and it seems to get a lot of use when the grandkids are over.
Anyone know who makes John Lewis "white" goods as seem to have long warranties? To look at them they look like Bosch/Siemens.
We have what was a very expensive Siemens washing machine that has a u/s main logic board which will cost a fortune to replace (circa £350), shame as the machine itself is still in superb condition so it looks like a tip job for that.
We have what was a very expensive Siemens washing machine that has a u/s main logic board which will cost a fortune to replace (circa £350), shame as the machine itself is still in superb condition so it looks like a tip job for that.
Edited by WyrleyD on Sunday 5th May 15:43
I think what people are saying is you pays your money and you take your chance.
There's really no make that you can be sure will last well beyond the guarantee period.
The really expensive stuff goes wrong and the cheap stuff goes wrong and the middle price stuff goes wrong.
The expensive stuff might not go wrong so often but will usually be seriously expensive to repair.
There's really no make that you can be sure will last well beyond the guarantee period.
The really expensive stuff goes wrong and the cheap stuff goes wrong and the middle price stuff goes wrong.
The expensive stuff might not go wrong so often but will usually be seriously expensive to repair.
We generally buy the cheapest appliances that will fit in the holes. All ours are fully integrated, so I don't care if they're CDA, Electrolux or Miele. So long as the fridge keeps things cold, the freezer keeps things frozen, the washer makes clothes clean and the dryer dries them I am quite happy.
In terms of longevity I think the White Knight dryer is winning at about 8 years.
I bought my Bosch Excel fridge, freezer, dishwasher and washing machine when I moved in to my house in 2006. So far the handle on the freezer has cracked. Panasonic combi microwave is only about 7 or 8 years old though but no issues with that other than a weld going on both the wire stands.
Of course all this tells you is Bosch were making good stuff 13 years ago. No guarantee it's as good now.
Of course all this tells you is Bosch were making good stuff 13 years ago. No guarantee it's as good now.
singlecoil said:
I think what people are saying is you pays your money and you take your chance.
There's really no make that you can be sure will last well beyond the guarantee period.
The really expensive stuff goes wrong and the cheap stuff goes wrong and the middle price stuff goes wrong.
The expensive stuff might not go wrong so often but will usually be seriously expensive to repair.
Apart from the fact Wolf and Miele have 25 year Warranties / not sure about Sub zero but that’s going to be a very long term thing too. There's really no make that you can be sure will last well beyond the guarantee period.
The really expensive stuff goes wrong and the cheap stuff goes wrong and the middle price stuff goes wrong.
The expensive stuff might not go wrong so often but will usually be seriously expensive to repair.
Basically you cut your cloth accordingly. I don’t think now you can buy a BAD bit of kit it’s the appearance functions and feel of the product.
If money was no object I’d have Wolf sub zero and Miele no question. If I was scraping by I’d get a daewoo or something with a long warranty, if I was middle of the road /middle class I’d be getting the top of the range of Neff/Bosch/Siemens all very similar and it’s looks function separating them
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