Planners being conservative

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Lotobear

6,232 posts

127 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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OP,

That extension won't be cheap in itself to construct - not being funny but why not just knock the existing house down and build a completely new dwelling desiged to the same architectural style?

....then you can build the whole edifice to a high standard of energy efficiency (that will tick boxes I'm sure)

I take it you didn't consult before going in with your app?

Equus

16,770 posts

100 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Notwithstanding my other concerns, is that intended to be a balcony on the right hand side (or could it conceivably be converted to one in the future)?

If so, the planners really really wont like it, if it's on a typical '80's estate.

cptsideways

13,535 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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I'm seeing lots of these style designs, obviously architects only work with Microsoft Paint these days. It seems bolting on an awful industrial box designed by a five year old to your semi is the new thing.

Sorry, I can see why they object

55palfers

5,893 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Maybe if it wasn't grey?

Marmax

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45 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Equus said:
Well, I think you might find that the Planners disagree.

They may well take the view (and I would support them to some degree) that the character of the neighbouring development simply isn't robust enough to carry it off.
I suspect you are right.
I didn’t realise the planners were so conservative regarding rear extensions.

Marmax

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45 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Lotobear said:
OP,

That extension won't be cheap in itself to construct - not being funny but why not just knock the existing house down and build a completely new dwelling desiged to the same architectural style?

....then you can build the whole edifice to a high standard of energy efficiency (that will tick boxes I'm sure)

I take it you didn't consult before going in with your app?
I’d love to knock it down but if the planners won’t pass a rear extension I can see them passing a new build.

Marmax

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79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Muncher said:
How about changing the appearance of the rest of the house to match it better?


It is getting updated but obviously not to everyone’s taste.

Marmax

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79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Equus said:
Notwithstanding my other concerns, is that intended to be a balcony on the right hand side (or could it conceivably be converted to one in the future)?

If so, the planners really really wont like it, if it's on a typical '80's estate.
Definitely not a balcony.
I’m not one for looking down on my neighbours.
No one to the rear just open fields.

Marmax

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Wednesday 15th May 2019
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55palfers said:
Maybe if it wasn't grey?
Black.? wink

So

26,271 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Marmax said:
Equus said:
Well, I think you might find that the Planners disagree.

They may well take the view (and I would support them to some degree) that the character of the neighbouring development simply isn't robust enough to carry it off.
I suspect you are right.
I didn’t realise the planners were so conservative regarding rear extensions.
I wonder whether you might have a phone conversation with the PO, ask whether the scheme is likely to pass, if not withdraw and resubmit with the assistance of a planning consultant. In my experience, councils don't have much stomach for a battle over something trivial and when all is said and done it is at the BACK.

Alternatively resubmit a design that looks like an actual turd.


Marmax

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45 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Lotobear said:
OP,

That extension won't be cheap in itself to construct - not being funny but why not just knock the existing house down and build a completely new dwelling desiged to the same architectural style?

....then you can build the whole edifice to a high standard of energy efficiency (that will tick boxes I'm sure)

I take it you didn't consult before going in with your app?
I didn’t consult as I didn’t think rear extensions were such a biggie.
I’d love to knock it down but can’t justify the cost.
I am planning on a full back to brick renovation as it’s a st hole.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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cptsideways said:
I'm seeing lots of these style designs, obviously architects only work with Microsoft Paint these days. It seems bolting on an awful industrial box designed by a five year old to your semi is the new thing.

Sorry, I can see why they object
To me, it looks like a shipping container thats been bolted onto the back of a house. It is very "now" though, the issue with that is fashion comes and goes very quickly.

Marmax

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45 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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cptsideways said:
I'm seeing lots of these style designs, obviously architects only work with Microsoft Paint these days. It seems bolting on an awful industrial box designed by a five year old to your semi is the new thing.

Sorry, I can see why they object
It’s the current trend.. wink

Marmax

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Wednesday 15th May 2019
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DoubleD said:
To me, it looks like a shipping container thats been bolted onto the back of a house. It is very "now" though, the issue with that is fashion comes and goes very quickly.
It is very now. What should I do though? Replicate the 80s Barrat style.confused

Marmax

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Wednesday 15th May 2019
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So said:
I wonder whether you might have a phone conversation with the PO, ask whether the scheme is likely to pass, if not withdraw and resubmit with the assistance of a planning consultant. In my experience, councils don't have much stomach for a battle over something trivial and when all is said and done it is at the BACK.

Alternatively resubmit a design that looks like an actual turd.
I have had a conversation with the planning officer,and I got the feeling they would prefer a turd.
If it gets knocked back I’ll probably scrap the idea and retire 5 years earlier with the money I’ll have saved. biggrin

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Marmax said:
DoubleD said:
To me, it looks like a shipping container thats been bolted onto the back of a house. It is very "now" though, the issue with that is fashion comes and goes very quickly.
It is very now. What should I do though? Replicate the 80s Barrat style.confused
If you like the plans then keep going with that.

So

26,271 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Marmax said:
So said:
I wonder whether you might have a phone conversation with the PO, ask whether the scheme is likely to pass, if not withdraw and resubmit with the assistance of a planning consultant. In my experience, councils don't have much stomach for a battle over something trivial and when all is said and done it is at the BACK.

Alternatively resubmit a design that looks like an actual turd.
I have had a conversation with the planning officer,and I got the feeling they would prefer a turd.
If it gets knocked back I’ll probably scrap the idea and retire 5 years earlier with the money I’ll have saved. biggrin
Could you post her a turd and tell her it's a scale model of your revised proposal?

You can tell I am fond of planning officers, can't you.


Marmax

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45 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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So said:
Could you post her a turd and tell her it's a scale model of your revised proposal?

You can tell I am fond of planning officers, can't you.
Good idea. laughlaugh

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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So said:
Could you post her a turd and tell her it's a scale model of your revised proposal?

You can tell I am fond of planning officers, can't you.
biggrin

littlebasher

3,767 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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No offence intended OP, but it looks like something my son built in minecraft - just without the blocks of TNT