Woodwork 101

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wolfracesonic

6,992 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Cheers Loughran. Yes, the bench holdfast, what an awesomely simple tool. Another tool I picked up was a cabinet scraper, again, stunning results from what is basically just a flat piece of steel; difficult grain, I spit on you! For anyone else reading this who’s interested in hand woodworking, have a look at a guy called Paul Sellars, an absolute goldmine of knowledge after 50 years of woodworking, as he doesn’t let you forget! Paul Sellars, complete with folksy guitar intro that all YouTube woodwork videos seem to have!

loughran

2,743 posts

136 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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Progress with the yew today. This is the tree I was given by my neighbours and in return I agreed to make them a small piece of furniture. I've elected to make a pier table, keeping it simple but with a curvy stretcher to make it a bit more interesting.

So then, out with the vacuum bag and pump.



The bag's seen better days, I think a mouse has probably had nibble so I've patched it here and there but it works ok. The idea is you glue a number of leaves of wood, arrange them on a former inside the bag then seal the bag and suck the air out with a small pump allowing atmospheric pressure to do the business until the glue dries a few hours later.

Curves like this can be steamed or cut out of the solid if you have the material but laminating like this is quick and easy and if the leaves are cut from one piece and kept in order it can be difficult to see the individual layers when it's sanded and polished.

Two curves later and things can be tentatively assembled.



Then an afternoon spent sanding and adjusting and everything is ready for gluing up... but that's a job for tomorrow.


wolfracesonic

6,992 posts

127 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Well, you’re just showing off now! As a professional furniture maker, how do you go about things like fixing the aprons into the legs, hand cut m&ts, morticer and spindle moulded for the tenons or Domino fixings and do you ever get costumers prepared to pay for everything to done by hand? Also how you did fasten the ends of the curved stretchers to legs when they meet at 45 degrees, a birds mouth and dowels?

marksx

5,052 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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I'm sorry but curved wood is just witchcraft.

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paulrockliffe

15,700 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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marksx said:
I'm sorry but curved wood is just witchcraft.

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It does look good, but it's always disappointed when the craftsman reveals that he didn't invest the time and effort in doing it properly. Properly of course is growing the trees to the right curve in the first place.

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psi310398

9,086 posts

203 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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This is at least marginally related to the title, so please bear with me: I've been looking on Google and haven't turned anything up but does anybody know a site (preferably in Italian but German or French will do) that does the usual timber types in metric as sold on the continent please?

I'm popping over to my place in Italy to do some joinery - fitting out a shed and installing bookcases and I have to buy in a load of stuff but cannot find a glossary/guide which will allow me confidently to spec up, 2 by 2s, 4 by 2s, specific types of MDF or ply, PAR etc.

The professional timber merchants I have made enquiries of tend to require a pre-written list (although once I supply it, they will let me inspect the wood I'm buying) but they are not really geared up to hold amateurs' hands. They are much better quality than Brico etc and more competitively priced as well as more competitive on delivery so I'd really prefer putting my business their way.

I'd be grateful for any pointers.

Mr.Grooler

1,179 posts

225 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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I’ve got distracted from my shoe storage and decided to make a shaker-style door for our bathroom first. We’ve changed every other one in the house but the bathroom one is too narrow to come out of the same range. I was going to have one custom made, but feel inspired to try it myself now instead.

I’m making a router table so will be easily able to groove the stiles and rails.

My first question is,

It looks easiest to use splines like this as I don’t need to cut tenons and therefore can’t mess up the alignment so easily

Is that going to be strong enough for a full size door when glued up? (623x1998) The splines and panel would be 18mm thick.

Secondly, if I use MDF for the middle panel and a hardwood for the outer parts then can I glue the whole lot together for best strength or do I need to leave the panel floating?

Thanks folks!


loughran

2,743 posts

136 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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If the splines are a snug fit they'll form an excellent joint and as the panel will neither expand or contract it can be glued in place further strengthening the door.

Mr.Grooler

1,179 posts

225 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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loughran said:
If the splines are a snug fit they'll form an excellent joint and as the panel will neither expand or contract it can be glued in place further strengthening the door.
Brill x2 - thanks

C2Red

3,983 posts

253 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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That’s one way I’ve seen done on YouTube, Peter Millard springs to mind, his works was all mdf mind...

paulrockliffe

15,700 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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loughran said:
If the splines are a snug fit they'll form an excellent joint and as the panel will neither expand or contract it can be glued in place further strengthening the door.
If you glue the panel those splines won't need to do very much anyway will they?

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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My doors I made this way:

https://youtu.be/NVTDNfsu50U

wolfracesonic

6,992 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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loughran said:
If the splines are a snug fit they'll form an excellent joint and as the panel will neither expand or contract it can be glued in place further strengthening the door.
Interesting, would plywood have to be left free floating, say on a kitchen cupboard sized door?

loughran

2,743 posts

136 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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wolfracesonic said:
loughran said:
If the splines are a snug fit they'll form an excellent joint and as the panel will neither expand or contract it can be glued in place further strengthening the door.
Interesting, would plywood have to be left free floating, say on a kitchen cupboard sized door?
Having a solid wood panel floating in a frame allows the panel to expand and contract depending on the seasons and/or its changing moisture content. If you imagine a Victorian panelled front door the panels could be subject to hot sunshine and then months of dreary foggy weather. The panels could expand or contract 5mm across their width and if glued in place would soon split.

A good quality plywood is dimensionally stable can be glued in place. I would glue it in place

wolfracesonic

6,992 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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^ I knew you had to leave solid wood panels free floating, I thought the same went for man made boards; I shall mentally file that one awaythumbup Re. Wood panelled doors, I come across a lot of panels that have split, as after receiving a 100 years worth of paint, they’re effectively glued in place anywaylaugh

marksx

5,052 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Beautiful!

ATG

20,575 posts

272 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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That's great. Elegant proportions, pleasing detailing without distracting from the simple beauty of the wood itself.

(err … where's it gone??)

loughran

2,743 posts

136 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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The yew table is finished.
Ten years ago a neighbour had to have their ancient yew tree felled but had the foresight to have it sliced into boards and stored, drying nicely, ready to be used someday.
10 years pass and by coincidence we meet neighbour, strike up a conversation and they tell me all about their tree.
A deal is struck.... They would like me to have the tree but in return would I make them a piece of furniture out of some of the wood so they could always remember their beautiful tree ?
The perfect transaction. 🙂
The pleasure has been all mine. Yew is a magical wood, the tree of spells, the tree of longbows, druids and windsor chair hoops. It's a softwood and yet hard, both poisonous and the tree of rebirth, a holy tree which was growing in churchyards before churches were invented.
The top is in one piece, it's exceptionally rare to get such a wide plank with yew and the colour is incredible, already starting to mellow as I've been working on it.
Just got to deliver it now.










psi310398

9,086 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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loughran said:
The yew table is finished.
Ten years ago a neighbour had to have their ancient yew tree felled but had the foresight to have it sliced into boards and stored, drying nicely, ready to be used someday.
10 years pass and by coincidence we meet neighbour, strike up a conversation and they tell me all about their tree.
A deal is struck.... They would like me to have the tree but in return would I make them a piece of furniture out of some of the wood so they could always remember their beautiful tree ?
The perfect transaction. ??
The pleasure has been all mine. Yew is a magical wood, the tree of spells, the tree of longbows, druids and windsor chair hoops. It's a softwood and yet hard, both poisonous and the tree of rebirth, a holy tree which was growing in churchyards before churches were invented.
The top is in one piece, it's exceptionally rare to get such a wide plank with yew and the colour is incredible, already starting to mellow as I've been working on it.
Just got to deliver it now.
Just to say simply what a lovely job!

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crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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psi310398 said:
Just to say simply what a lovely job!

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What he said. Lovely to go from outside the house to inside. I'm sure they'll be over the moon with it.