Drill / Driver for Home Use

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Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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I have 2 x 5Ah batteries, they're very useful for the hedge trimmer and strimmer. A bit overkill for a drill unless you're using it for hours at a stretch.

ecotec

404 posts

129 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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@Flibble - yes your right some of the garden tools are quite battery hungry!

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

195 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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mr_fibuli said:
This is the one I've got - 18v Bosch Blue with 2x 2Ah batteries for £115 at the moment on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Professional-GSB-18...

It's really compact, the batteries last for ages, and is plenty powerful enough for masonry and driving big coach screws into wood.
On offer at Toolstation now for £100: https://www.toolstation.com/bosch-gsb-18v-21-18v-l...

JackReacher

2,123 posts

215 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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For those in the know, is this reasonable value?

https://www.homebase.co.uk/makita-dhp459rmj-brushl...

dickymint

24,242 posts

258 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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JackReacher said:
For those in the know, is this reasonable value?

https://www.homebase.co.uk/makita-dhp459rmj-brushl...
Bargain with those batteries and a good entry into buying body only add ons.

PAT64

699 posts

59 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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mr_fibuli said:
On offer at Toolstation now for £100: https://www.toolstation.com/bosch-gsb-18v-21-18v-l...
Worth checking wolseley and B&Q time to time, they sometimes get them for £60, I got mine from Wolseley for 60 quid. Check HotUKdeals for offers.

Its a decent bit of kit but imo lacks power and even with an decent Bosch masonry diamond tipped drill bit could not handle concrete fence post at all. For wood it was good though.


JackReacher

2,123 posts

215 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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dickymint said:
Bargain with those batteries and a good entry into buying body only add ons.
Purchased and collected, should be more than adequate for my DIY needs, feels good quality but only time will tell how it lasts

JimbobVFR

2,682 posts

144 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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PAT64 said:
Its a decent bit of kit but imo lacks power and even with an decent Bosch masonry diamond tipped drill bit could not handle concrete fence post at all. For wood it was good though.
If your concrete posts are anything like mine nothing short of a decent SDS mains drill will so I wouldn't be too harsh on the cordless.

steve2

1,772 posts

218 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Dan, I have a mass of Dewalt tools and have not had a problem with any of them, 2 weeks ago I got the twin pack with the impact driver and am very pleased with it.

PAT64

699 posts

59 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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JimbobVFR said:
If your concrete posts are anything like mine nothing short of a decent SDS mains drill will so I wouldn't be too harsh on the cordless.
Yeah bit harsh on it but I just figured it would at least do 3-4 mm into the fence post at least, barely scratched the surface oddly. Yes an mains sds the way to go for that stuff.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Dan_1981 said:
Still haven't bought one hehe

The Ryobi one above is still on offer - could match that to a drill.

Or this pack from Dewalt.

https://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/dewalt-dck2059d2t-p...

Which would you go for?
Are these worth the £30 over the Erbauer kit?

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Dan_1981 said:
Still haven't bought one hehe

The Ryobi one above is still on offer - could match that to a drill.

Or this pack from Dewalt.

https://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/dewalt-dck2059d2t-p...

Which would you go for?
Are these worth the £30 over the Erbauer kit?
Anyone? Want to order them soon smile

dickymint

24,242 posts

258 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
TheAngryDog said:
Dan_1981 said:
Still haven't bought one hehe

The Ryobi one above is still on offer - could match that to a drill.

Or this pack from Dewalt.

https://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/dewalt-dck2059d2t-p...

Which would you go for?
Are these worth the £30 over the Erbauer kit?
Anyone? Want to order them soon smile
Personally I’d go for the Makita drill above with the 2 x 4Ah batteries and use the £40 towards a Makita body only impact driver.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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dickymint said:
TheAngryDog said:
TheAngryDog said:
Dan_1981 said:
Still haven't bought one hehe

The Ryobi one above is still on offer - could match that to a drill.

Or this pack from Dewalt.

https://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/dewalt-dck2059d2t-p...

Which would you go for?
Are these worth the £30 over the Erbauer kit?
Anyone? Want to order them soon smile
Personally I’d go for the Makita drill above with the 2 x 4Ah batteries and use the £40 towards a Makita body only impact driver.
Like this?

https://www.toolden.co.uk/power-tools/impact-drive...

ecotec

404 posts

129 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
your link is to a brushed model, you might want to get a brushless for better run time etc


Your post above Ryobi v Dewalt = Dewalt is a "pro" tool brand and Ryobi is more of a mid range DIY+ brand, however Ryobi has a great selection of cordless tools and they are reasonable quality. In the US (and maybe elsewhere) they are DIY price whereas here they are just slightly below pro price. It's worth checking ebay US as it can be much much cheaper

ecotec

404 posts

129 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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mr_fibuli said:
On offer at Toolstation now for £100: https://www.toolstation.com/bosch-gsb-18v-21-18v-l...
I've got x2 of these but an older model and the chuck is dreadful on both (one much more so than the other) - so much wobble. It seems it's a common problem with hammer Bosch drills (see BOB forum).

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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ecotec said:
TheAngryDog said:
your link is to a brushed model, you might want to get a brushless for better run time etc


Your post above Ryobi v Dewalt = Dewalt is a "pro" tool brand and Ryobi is more of a mid range DIY+ brand, however Ryobi has a great selection of cordless tools and they are reasonable quality. In the US (and maybe elsewhere) they are DIY price whereas here they are just slightly below pro price. It's worth checking ebay US as it can be much much cheaper
Cheers. Cost from the USA would likely make it prohibive.

I don't suppose you happen to know the model number for the brushless one at all please? Or is this the one? https://www.its.co.uk/pd/DTD153Z-18v-Li-ion-Cordle...

Shominy

134 posts

88 months

Tuesday 20th August 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Anyone? Want to order them soon smile
That Dewalt twinpack looks like it's an impact and a drill driver not a combi drill so won't have a hammer function. The Erbauer stuff I'd imagine is pretty good value for money and will see you through pretty much anything. Ryobi stuff I don't really understand this side of the pond as it never seems to be much cheaper than Makita and Dewalt stuff. I've got Dewalt gear now but only because I bought a drill on offer a few years back. I'd probably go with Erbauer stuff now as it's usually a fair bit cheaper and they have plenty of stuff to choose from and for my needs it'd be more than enough. Unless you're on site every day I don't think you'd know the difference between them all really. My FIL runs Makita gear and when I work with him and use his stuff it feels very similar to my Dewalt gear and to be honest the thing I prefer about mine is I use all 1.5ah batteries and he has big 4/5ah ones and they tire you out much quicker as they're quite a bit heavier when you're up and down all day drilling and driving.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,789 posts

71 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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May I politely suggest you're over thinking it a bit?

I just finished putting up a plasterboard ceiling with a wooden frame in a roughly 12×10' room. The frame was bolted to concrete block walls which is the only thing which tested the impact gun a bit, though they all went in. 2 1.3Ah batteries outlasted me between cups of coffee, and the brush motor, plastic chuck Dewalt drill and impact gun proved perfectly capable.

If I was doing it all day every day I would possibly go for a couple of bigger batteries and fewer cups of coffee but for the £150 they cost me 3 years ago these were more than adequate.

I dare say a Makita or blue Bosch would have been just as good. I don't see how it could have been so much better that I would pay double, though I can imagine it being worse for a fairly small saving.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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I'm using just a DeWalt combi with 5AH battery and so far it's gone through everything I've needed, including bricks, without much fuss. Would it be tough enough for big holes in high strength concrete? Maybe not, but it's managed everything else.

At some point I might get an impact driver, but I've not needed to yet.

I would say having both has one big advantage in that you can drill with one and drive with the other, so you spend less time swapping bits.