Tarmac Repairs?

[paulrockliffe]

The hanging beam is just what had been done when he realised he couldn't fix it to the otherside because the heights are wrong and gave up.

Of course he could have fixed it but he'd have had to remove the first lift and rebuild it at the right height. At the time I just needed him to do the stuff to let me get the roof on before the rain, so it ended up like that.

I read the HSE stuff on putting scaffold up and picked up on loads that's wrong. I suspect he hasn't sorted a permit either, what are the potential consequences there?

This is so annoying, on the one hand I want it all taking away asap, I already have someone sorted to redo the two sides I need to get the external insulation on. On the other I literally just need an hour to get the guttering on that side, but can't see I can do it without either getting it changed again or sacking him off and having the third side rebuilt again. FFS

[Aluminati]

It’s going to be cheaper to drop the lift rather than a re erect. However, i wouldn’t let any of my lads work on that scaffold, nor would i.

The only permit he would require is if the scaffold is on the public highway ( Pavement license)

Technically, you are the contractor, as you are doing the work yourself, and you have appointed the scaffolder, under CDM 2015, the HSE would probably rip you a new ahole first before they dealt with the scaffolder.

[paulrockliffe]

This:

https://selfbuildportal.org.uk/healthandsafety/

Is my understanding of the application of CDM2015, is it wrong?

[Andeh1]

Withhold payment until rectified /completed?

[paulrockliffe]

Andeh1 said:

Withhold payment until rectified /completed?

That's been the state of play since it all started, the problem is more the impact all this has had on the rest of the project and how I keep things on track.

As it stands I have a narrow time-frame starting next weekend to get the external insulation and cladding on before it starts getting more complicated because of other stuff. It's obviously tight to get the scaffold down and new up next week given this scaffolder's track record and that the new scaffolder will want to know the old is down before scheduling this in around his other work.

[Aluminati]

paulrockliffe said:

This:

https://selfbuildportal.org.uk/healthandsafety/

Is my understanding of the application of CDM2015, is it wrong?

You are the client.

[paulrockliffe]

Aluminati said:

paulrockliffe said:

This:

https://selfbuildportal.org.uk/healthandsafety/

Is my understanding of the application of CDM2015, is it wrong?

You are the client.

Ok, so what have I not done, struggling to see something I should have done.

[Aluminati]

paulrockliffe said:

Ok, so what have I not done, struggling to see something I should have done.

“ Plan, manage and monitor construction work under their control so that it is carried out without risks to health and safety”

Would probably be where they (HSE) would start. You have accepted that scaffold and allowed other trades to work from it ? Were you given any form of handover certificate/is there a scafftag on it ?

Not having a dig, just trying to advise what avenue they would approach from.

Although their current favourite is trades pulling hoodies over their hardhats and wearing earphones

Last month, it was cutting chases without the correct extraction equipment.

[anonymous-user]

Aluminati said:

loggo said:

V8RX7 said:

Heat the cold lay tarmac and heat the area its going into (heat gun / gas torch) then bash it down (lump hammer and wooden block)

This. ^^

But I resent the implication regarding tipper drivers !

X2, except the tipper driver bit.

It's right though
https://youtu.be/X8qFD2s0Fwg

[paulrockliffe]

Aluminati said:

paulrockliffe said:

Ok, so what have I not done, struggling to see something I should have done.

“ Plan, manage and monitor construction work under their control so that it is carried out without risks to health and safety”

Would probably be where they (HSE) would start. You have accepted that scaffold and allowed other trades to work from it ? Were you given any form of handover certificate/is there a scafftag on it ?

Not having a dig, just trying to advise what avenue they would approach from.

Although their current favourite is trades pulling hoodies over their hardhats and wearing earphones

Last month, it was cutting chases without the correct extraction equipment.

I don't have time to look over this in detail now, but my understanding is that it's a question of whether I controlled the way construction work took place. I didn't, I don't think, I asked a roofing company to slate and lead a new roof once the rafters were in. They engaged a scaffolder (and a bricklayer) directly for their purposes and dictated their own requirements for how they needed to be able to work, but didn't dictate how the scaffold should be built. I've not done any work from the scaffold, I don't think I've actually even stepped on it, everything I've done was from inside and prior to the roofers becoming involved.

I guess the waters are a bit muddied as all the issues have meant the guttering wasn't able to be done because I didn't have time to prepare the timber, so I now do need to use the scaffold. And there was an intention for the scaffold to remain in place while I did the insulation and cladding work, but that isn't now the case.

The link I posted states, "The self-builder is entitled to expect contractors to plan, manage and monitor their own work in compliance with the CDM regs." I took that to mean that I don't need to know about scaffold regs (regardless of whether I engage directly or not) because I can expect the scaffolder to know the rules of their industry and can expect them to follow those rules.

[paulrockliffe]

speedyguy said:

It's right though
https://youtu.be/X8qFD2s0Fwg

That looks ace, got a torrent?

[Aluminati]

paulrockliffe said:

I don't have time to look over this in detail now, but my understanding is that it's a question of whether I controlled the way construction work took place. I didn't, I don't think, I asked a roofing company to slate and lead a new roof once the rafters were in. They engaged a scaffolder (and a bricklayer) directly for their purposes and dictated their own requirements for how they needed to be able to work, but didn't dictate how the scaffold should be built. I've not done any work from the scaffold, I don't think I've actually even stepped on it, everything I've done was from inside and prior to the roofers becoming involved.

I guess the waters are a bit muddied as all the issues have meant the guttering wasn't able to be done because I didn't have time to prepare the timber, so I now do need to use the scaffold. And there was an intention for the scaffold to remain in place while I did the insulation and cladding work, but that isn't now the case.

The link I posted states, "The self-builder is entitled to expect contractors to plan, manage and monitor their own work in compliance with the CDM regs." I took that to mean that I don't need to know about scaffold regs (regardless of whether I engage directly or not) because I can expect the scaffolder to know the rules of their industry and can expect them to follow those rules.

Ahhh, apologies, i thought you had engaged the Scaffolder, although i use the term Scaffolder in the loosest sense.

I would ask the Roofing Co if you can have a look at the scaffold handover cert....