Bungalow Renovation - FloorPlan Critique Required

Bungalow Renovation - FloorPlan Critique Required

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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I purchased the below bungalow a few months back and went to the architect with the brief of needing a new open plan kitchen/diner and a new master bedroom with en-suite. Below are the initial 2 ideas that I received this week. Mrs G and I are taking a look and working out what works, what needs changing etc. and I thought the brilliant minds on PH could also come up with suggestions as well.

We have over 100 foot of rear garden so can afford to go out the back as much as needed but I am trying to keep the actual build cost of the shell down to £100k or below.

Red dotted lines are existing walls to be removed and the light grey hatching is new build.

Your thoughts would be grateful.

Cheers, Gary

Existing floorpan:



Option 1




Option 2


anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Just to add:

The grey block behind the right hand living room wall is a chimney breast so that wall cannot easily be moved.

Existing rear and front elevations if that helps.




Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Any proposed roof plans? Be interesting to see how well the extensions integrate with the existing.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Beyond Rational said:
Any proposed roof plans? Be interesting to see how well the extensions integrate with the existing.
That's one of my major concerns to work that out. I actually think taking the existing roof right across over the garage to a new gable end would be a good start but then integrating that all with the existing add on that is the rear dining room and then the new bits seems quite difficult.

I wonder if taking the whole roof off the dining room and making that either flat OR taking that roof out further to cover all the new buts would make sense. As I said, only sitting down today to look at them.

Here are the two proposed elevations to compare:




PositronicRay

27,006 posts

183 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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I prefer plan 2 with the bigger living room.

Thar corridor to the back bedroom seems a waste of space.

ETA

Does the kitchen diner even need a door? Just open it up to the hall.

Edited by PositronicRay on Wednesday 6th November 13:28

WonkeyDonkey

2,338 posts

103 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Unless you're planning to spend an awful lot of time in the kitchen I would rather go for a larger living room.

twokcc

827 posts

177 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Which way is south, would want main living space to take advantage of solar gain

Removing chimney breast not difficult and may be worth doing whilst all other refurbishment being done unless you want to keep it as a feature for lounge

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Yes, the long corridor to the bedroom does seem a waste.

Last house, we spent 80% of our time in our (admittedly much larger) kitchen/diner/day room and only used the living room at night for TV viewing.


hornmeister

809 posts

91 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Option 1 with a few changes.

I'd put the living room at the back and have it open plan with the kitchen diner, 1 large entertaining space.

This allows for a bigger bedroom 3 and a bigger shared bathroom which could be split into main & ensuite if required or maybe just a main bathroom and then also & separate WC.



Equus

16,852 posts

101 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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garyhun said:
That's going to be a clumsy and defects-prone junction between the flat roof and the pitched roof, on the back.

Other immediate practical issues that are leaping out at me are:
  • Check that you can achieve beams to carry the removed walls without substantial downstands in the kitchen/dining areas (or if not, think what these will look like, and decide whether you can live with it).
  • Maybe just a personal thing, but I don't like bedrooms with only French doors in them. I'd think about adding a (possibly high-level, on the flank, if you need to avoid overlooking issues) secondary window so that you can get some ventilation in summer, without having to leave the doors open.

covmutley

3,022 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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I prefer Option 2.

Could you push back the doors to kitchen and bedroom 1 to create a larger hall there and make the long corridor shorter. Door for bedroom 3 could go onto the side wall (as currently shown) of bedroom 3.

That would free up space in the existing hall, next to existing bathroom door, to enlarge the family bathroom. Or, add another small ensuite for bedroom 3, or add a small cloakroom toilet and make the existing bathroom a bit bigger and a jack and jill type.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Equus said:
garyhun said:
That's going to be a clumsy and defects-prone junction between the flat roof and the pitched roof, on the back.

Other immediate practical issues that are leaping out at me are:
  • Check that you can achieve beams to carry the removed walls without substantial downstands in the kitchen/dining areas (or if not, think what these will look like, and decide whether you can live with it).
  • Maybe just a personal thing, but I don't like bedrooms with only French doors in them. I'd think about adding a (possibly high-level, on the flank, if you need to avoid overlooking issues) secondary window so that you can get some ventilation in summer, without having to leave the doors open.
Agreed with regards to the roof junctions. I was actually considering taking the whole roof off and re-designing it all to make this work. We only had a very brief chat with architect about that and his initial comment was why waste money when the roof, whilst at least 40 years old, is in perfectly good condition. Not sure what budget we'd be looking at but at least he's not trying to spend every penny of my budget.

Regarding the new bedroom, architect has put patio doors in but we'd have a window anyway. There is no overlooking from anywhere but we don't like patio doors in a bedroom either unless a very good reason.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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hornmeister said:
Option 1 with a few changes.

I'd put the living room at the back and have it open plan with the kitchen diner, 1 large entertaining space.

This allows for a bigger bedroom 3 and a bigger shared bathroom which could be split into main & ensuite if required or maybe just a main bathroom and then also & separate WC.


Interestingly we have been looking at placing bed 3 (which is my study) where the living room is. Not thought about the bedroom at the back becoming the living room..... interesting idea.

covmutley

3,022 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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garyhun said:
Interestingly we have been looking at placing bed 3 (which is my study) where the living room is. Not thought about the bedroom at the back becoming the living room..... interesting idea.
The only thing I would say on that is that in my old house, we had a living spaces at the front and back. I really liked this as it created good separation when needed and also each room got the sun at different ends of the day. I cant explain clearly why it was better, but it just seemed to make the 2 spaces more different, with different types of usage, at different times of day.

NorthDave

2,364 posts

232 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Option 2 for me but that long tunnel to Bedroom 1 at the back needs to go. What a waste of space!

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Does anyone know rough costs for replacing an entire roof?

irocfan

40,389 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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if you like I can send you a few pics of my bungalow renovation/upgrade (ie I'll have a proper read of this this evening when I can see the floorplans properly)

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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irocfan said:
if you like I can send you a few pics of my bungalow renovation/upgrade (ie I'll have a proper read of this this evening when I can see the floorplans properly)
Cheers, that would be great.


Daaaveee

909 posts

223 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Horn's plan is a lot better than your architect's options... I mean that corridor in to Bed 1... really?!

Sonie

238 posts

108 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Which direction is North?

Having the Sun coming into the lounge makes it a warmer/inviting environment.