Reasonable quote for electrics?
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V8RX7 said:
SuperPav said:
Change distribution board to 16way duel split RCD. Test all existing circuits.
Isolate all cables to make safe for building works. 1 man day
I saw my Sparkie do this last week - 1/2 a dayIsolate all cables to make safe for building works. 1 man day
- disclaimer: not an electrician!
Alucidnation said:
brman said:
On the other hand single pole RCBOs do not give the same protection as a RCD...
Why not?
So not much good if you want descrimination to an upstream RCD (eg a TT installation).
Also do not protect the user from certain neutral faults but I am not going to get into an arguement about how likely they are.
Also special locations where dual pole protection is either required or sensible.
sjj84 said:
.... be aware of MK, they're pulling out of the consumer unit market and so stock is being sold off cheap, you don't want to be a few years down the line and not able to get parts for it.
Oh, nice, sigh. The one thing I didn't push!That and the atrocious LAP pir for the porch light, which seemly can't detecting the difference between a human in the porch, and a sparrow farting in nextdoors garden. Either that or the there is a random number generator better the sensor and the relay!
Daniel
Alucidnation said:
Did you leave some straw out for his transport?
Love it, the usual my ‘electrician’ can do it it for £1.50 talk, good luck to them if they want to work for that. My first commercial job for a research company today 7.45 start done by 9.30 (install 1 new emergency light, wiring above false ceiling) £325.00 for me after costs, client more than happy, not an everyday occurrence, but in the same time i’d still be explaining to a domestic customer why one Collingwood down light is the same price as about 600 LAP ones, that they would expect me to come back and fix every time they pack up. I’d rather be at home with my feet up than entertain such goings on, but never seem to get an early day due to the workload, even with my ‘extortionate’ rates....
Where are you in the country? Different rates per location. 200 day up north what down south? We see 300-500 (London)
Also as has been said there can be a huge disparity in materials. I always use ansell orbio lamps at 20ish quid a thro vs buttons at SF.
I could easily see 1500 labour 500 materials and 300 “contingency”
Also as has been said there can be a huge disparity in materials. I always use ansell orbio lamps at 20ish quid a thro vs buttons at SF.
I could easily see 1500 labour 500 materials and 300 “contingency”
brman said:
Alucidnation said:
brman said:
On the other hand single pole RCBOs do not give the same protection as a RCD...
Why not?So not much good if you want descrimination to an upstream RCD (eg a TT installation).
Also do not protect the user from certain neutral faults but I am not going to get into an arguement about how likely they are.
Also special locations where dual pole protection is either required or sensible.
Not all TT installations require an RCD up front, depending on the installation.
Having quoted hundreds of software / engineering jobs over the years I know that there are always complications/unforeseen snags in any job so the quote doesn't seem bad to me; I'd go for it. Also remember these guys need to make a living; it's hard physical labour in frequently dirty conditions, personally I don't like to get a fair deal to both parties.
I assume the electrician who quoted has seen the site or plans and is therefore better able to judge the risk and contingency for that risk than anyone here who has not seen the same.
To the OP: If you want to know if you are getting a good price then draw up a detailed spec of the work you want doing and get 3 quotes from qualified electricians and compare them. Simply coming on PH and saying "is this a good price" from people who don't know the spec will get endless "my mate did it for 5 bob in 1962 which is about £3.50 today" type responses.
I assume the electrician who quoted has seen the site or plans and is therefore better able to judge the risk and contingency for that risk than anyone here who has not seen the same.
To the OP: If you want to know if you are getting a good price then draw up a detailed spec of the work you want doing and get 3 quotes from qualified electricians and compare them. Simply coming on PH and saying "is this a good price" from people who don't know the spec will get endless "my mate did it for 5 bob in 1962 which is about £3.50 today" type responses.
RE material costs - if you haven't done this before you will be astonished how much cable will be used particularly if you have high ceilings and a lot of 2-way switching! I'm not clear from the OP if the entire new area is being rewired but it's just shy of 50 sqm which is similar to the one I have just done. I've lost count but I reckon I've put 300m of T&E and 3&E cable into it which for rough counting is £150.
If it's any distance from your oven to the consumer unit and you're thinking about a big induction hob then they might have priced to do that in 10mm2 cable which is expensive stuff now. I've also just spent nearly £50 on earth bonding cable and clamps.
You could easily be at £300 in materials before you've bought a single light fitting or socket front plate.
If it's any distance from your oven to the consumer unit and you're thinking about a big induction hob then they might have priced to do that in 10mm2 cable which is expensive stuff now. I've also just spent nearly £50 on earth bonding cable and clamps.
You could easily be at £300 in materials before you've bought a single light fitting or socket front plate.
SuperPav said:
Umm... told you I wasn't an electrician!
That's another £130 then! Although if sparks charge £180 instead of £200-£250 where you are, then the overall ballpark should still be similar.
That's another £130 then! Although if sparks charge £180 instead of £200-£250 where you are, then the overall ballpark should still be similar.
sociopath said:
If it helps the OP, I've just been quoted £180 day rate in Chester, plus cost of gear, or I can supply.
Sounds about right.Our guy was also from Chester (we're on the wirral, he was known the family) and we were paying £150/day, he worked 9 till 4 and dropped the odd day as his wife works full time so he does the childcare.
So again, even a 'day' is a vague work term, the plumbers did 8 till 6, pair of brothers. So a day and a half of their time was about equiv to a week of the electrician.
Daniel
brman said:
To be fair, imho CEF sell as much crap as screwfix and at least screwfix prices are not all over the place. You just have to pick and choose. But yes, pricing a job on LAP or whatever the toolstation equivalent is is silly.
CEF sell different ranges for different budgets, much like any wholesaler these days. Screwfix and toolstation aren't electrical wholesalers and are a bit jack of all master of non imo. CEF also have the largest dedicated online facility in the UK and prices are now fully transparent, gone are the days of not knowing what you will be charged.Personally I like using a dedicated electrical wholesaler, be it eddy's, CEF, Rexel etc etc.
Not up on the new regs but I changed my dist boards for individual RCBO's after a nuisance trip defrosted the freezer whilst away, what a mess.
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